Marksmens place in Season 7

Cosmochris·Nov 8, 2016·1 votes·437 views

As an adc main I would like to hear some of your opinions on where marksmen will be for the upcoming assassin updates. Because all I expect to see is a grey screen but thats just me :/

9 Comments

Critmaster GarenNov 8, 20163 votes

batshit broken.

assassins wont matter much against ranged adc drain tanks with 27% damage reduction and tons of lifesteal.

PennsNov 8, 20161 votes

I wonder why only people that play tanks have that opinion kappa

RalanrNov 8, 20161 votes

Tanks/bruisers you mean.

My opinion on it: we play Champions that have to rely on our defensive stats and abilities to actually get in and survive long enough while everyone else seems to have some way to close the gap faster or maneuver unnoticed to get in and out.

We're basically reduced to those big mooks in games that start off as a credible threat, but soon become laughably easy to dance around. I don't mean in just league (though it can look that way from low to high elo) but in games in general.

We're the boss mook. The thing that's a threat early alone but needs five or more late to be considered an annoyance.

PennsNov 8, 20161 votes

Well I wouldnt call them "laughably easy to dance around" (at least not most of them) until everyone is close to full build. And damage should outscale tank stats. Also Ive seen more than enough adcs that have like 5 items, Last Whisper being one of them, and they still do nothing against tanks.

If anything about adcs is broken, its flat armor pen builds, but those are only effective against squishies. I literally see adcs say/write "they have 2-3+ tanks so I wont go for an armor pen build". Thats why I dont understand why tank mains say "there is too much armor pen and armor pen is broken so tanks are useless" lol.

RalanrNov 8, 20162 votes

I don't disagree that damage should outscale tank stats. If it didn't the game would never end. But sometimes it feels like there's too big a gap.

The thing with bonus armor pen items is that on tanks with no incombat sustain (so basically all tanks and some juggernauts) it completely denies them a chance to function if under ADC fire for an extended period. Now sure, that's supposed to be the case, but then you combine the broken flat pen builds, having maybe one more teammate with bonus armor pen, and then giant slayer, suddenly you need people to peel for you so you can stay alive to engage or peel.

PennsNov 8, 20161 votes

If that happens at all, its only gonna happen, like I said, after 5-6 items. People seem to ignore the first 25-40 minutes of tanks/bruisers being the unkkillable ones all the time..

Do you think Im having fun when I go 6/0 as assassin and then I do no damage to the tanky top laner that can lose his lane but still roll over me or the tank jungler? [zombie-nunu-bummed]

RalanrNov 8, 20161 votes

Nobody seems to have fun late unless you're a marksman, a mage, or a hypercarry not in those classes.

CosmochrisNov 8, 20161 votes

That is true gonna admit that marksman like jhin do broken dmg but gotta realize that there are alotta champions that easily counter adc's like annie zed syndra olaf and etc. Overall it depends on how the team plays around it