Full AD teams

Armour is also in a pretty sad state right now. There was a point in time where picking an all AD team was a bad idea because a tank could just build up and become borderline indestructible to AD. Riot has nerfed every single one of those items since that point however since an ADC main somewhere bitched at them because their dumb comp meant they didn't get to kill someone.

this is why needs to go back to a bruiser specific item.

the entire point of the thing was to be a core item for a very specific handful of fighters (and a situational pick for certain assassins), to give them some additional team synergy.

basically the idea was to give people an incentive to pick a bruiser who synergizes with cleaver over another champion against some teamcomps.

the fact that so many champions are stacking it with flat armor pen now, doesnt make the armor shred of cleaver in a game a rare case of a cleaver bruiser shredding armor for his team, but a common occurance, that everyone destroys everyone elses armor and deals almost true damage with 70 flat armor pen lategame.

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if you lose to full AD teams and you're playing a tank then you're bad

edit: Forgot the boards were bad, sorry! (trigger warning)

I miss the days before this was such an issue.....

Season 3 Sees enemy team has all ad

"Rawk Solid" "Outrageous" "Okay"

The problem I see is that there are many % armor pen items but only 1 % magic pen item. Mages only have 4 flat pen (including ) and 1 % pen. AD champs have 3 flat pen items and 3 % pen items, one of which helps your entire team ().

This means that building Armor is less useful than building magic resist. Especially considering that AD has crit as well.

But ooohhh wait, AP champs can get upwards of 700 AP while AD champs get max around 500 or so.

Doesn't matter if you factor in all the modifiers. This includes for AD: Crit RNG, 2 % pen to counter tanks, 3 Flat pen for squishies and tanks, and 1 armor reducer that takes 30% of your armor away Meanwhile AP only gets: Massive amounts of AP, one % pen item, 2 flat pen items, and a Flat MR reducer of 10-25 (based on level).

Have an upvote. The amount of arpen (both % and flat) in this game is just disgusting right now. LW + BC + %pen mastery gives 65% bonus armor reduction. Basically, it turns your into which is exactly why we're seeing barely any tanks being played in LCS. It's kind of fucked up when it's better to build health even against an all AD team because it's more useful than armor...

Well, a full ad team shouldn't be an instant lose. It is just plain dumb when a game gets decided in champion selection. You don't deserve a win cause you picked rammus or malphite against a full ad team.

its less armor pen is strong, more ap pen is garbage