What exactly are tank junglers weaknesses?

I GANK LANES··3 votes·776 views

I dont understand why this class out of all classes is able to withstand nerfs and dominate so easily.

High tier Tanks literally dont have weaknesses at any points in the game; eg sej, rammus, gragas.

They clear better or just as good as damage oriented junglers? Why is this? If theyre main attribute is being twnky they should sacrifice damage, which means less damage to NPCs which includes jungle monsters. Makes no sense that they have nearly the same clear speed as junglers who PRIORITIZE DAMAGE IN THEIR ENTIRE BUILD.

They can duel damage oriented junglers EARLY. Again, this shouldnt be happening at all. Tanks need a point im the game where theyre weak. If a tank jungler is caught out 9/10 times they should be running the other way. % damage is mitigating all their problems early and keeps them on par if not above other junglers. This isnt right; damage oriented junglers should have a CLEAR AND CONCISE advantage versus tank junglers who are SUPPOSED TO BE STRONG MID/LATE-LATE GAME. The power curve is completely iut of wack, because its a flatline above average.

This wasnt a well thought out post so those are just a few points but yeah. Also along with being the strongest, these champs are by far the easiest to play in the game. It literally annoys me when i play because i get extrmely bored playong thesr junglers (my go to is usually rammus/gragas) but if i DONT pick a tank ill just be gimping my team yhroughout the whole game.

Just a quick example: i used to play a lot of lee sin. Why the hell would i EVERA think about picking him when ram/gra exist?

Early clear? Theres both are just as good. Sustain? Both get so tanky early that refillable pot plants and smite is more than enough to stay hewlthy. Early ganks? Both have hard CC pre-6 while lee doesnt, id argue their ganks are STRONGER than lees. Damage? Someone playing at tge same level i guarantee the 2 tank junglers will be doing a hell of a lot more damage than lee sin. Not to mention these champions DONT UAVE TO BUILD DAMAGE ITEMS TO DO MORE DSMAGE THAN LEE. Thats just early game.

Both actyally scale after the early and turn inti maasive intiating cc disruptors with consistent damage output for their whole team. A good lee would be content getting a 2-3 man gank, maybe picking off a carry and dying. Whereas tgese other 2 champs could just run apeshit throyghout the rift with AN ACTUSLLY CONSISTENT AND RELIABLE INTISTION witg righteous glory into a body skan/3s taunt, doing massive AOE damage not to mention for a sustsined periodnof time, and consistently applying hard cc to thr enemy team.

Maybe thst situation would ve okay if theyquite werent literally outdamaging the monk with, like ive said before, NO GOLD INVESTED INTO ADDITIONAL DAMAGE. Its just not right riot

Disclaimer: i just used lee as an example because hee my fqvoritre champ and i play him a lot, and im lowkey pissed how hes a hot steaming pile of garbage even early, when hes supposed to be the king of early game.

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jwebb01133 votes

lee sin shouldnt be able to easily kill a tank jungler...

they do damage over extended fights... due to their sustain and tankyness that is how they do damage

tanks in general typically have high base damage cuz they dont scale with damage very well or dont effectively build damage items.

no thornmail isnt a damage item

I GANK LANES1 votes

Yeah im perfectly okay woth that outside the early game. Why should a hyper scaling tank be able to do more damage than a lee? Literally this champions inly purpose in a game? And no im not talking about sustained damage over time. These tanks have burst damage that outclasses champiojs that have invested in adamage oriented build, which imo is not okay.

jwebb01131 votes

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Yeah im perfectly okay woth that outside the early game. Why should a hyper scaling tank be able to do more damage than a lee? Literally this champions inly purpose in a game? And no im not talking about sustained damage over time. These tanks have burst damage that outclasses champiojs that have invested in adamage oriented build, which imo is not okay.

well lee is single target damage... and falls off hard unless stupid snowballing

and most tank junglers are doing aoe damage to multiple targets and do alot of damage over long trades in extended team fights...

waiting for WoW2 votes

Well it was Kindred once upon a time when Kindred could aggressively counter jungle and invade/kite any tank jungler.

After Kindred's endless nerfs(and especially the ones in 7.11) that is no longer the case which is why you see tank junglers running wild everywhere.

meowwow71 votes

my guess for tank junglers being "op" is for the fact most of their dmg is aoe and the camps that provide the most gold are the krugs and raptors in which they have great clear times and for those high dmg oriented junglers they lack aoe spells for those camps

Nhifu1 votes

Their jungle item SUCKS ass. That's their weakness lol

MorganFreemanBot1 votes

Tanky junglers have numerous weaknesses, however most of them tend to revolve around their team.

Zac, Sej, Amumu, are not going to win against an invading Kha'zix, Lee, Nocturne, Yi, or some such without some seriously extenuating factors. Early on they often won't even be able to survive such a gank if properly executed; unless their team responds very quickly to the threat.

Tanky junglers don't have strong solo kill potential. This means that, in ganks, they're reliable on the other party helping in order to score their kills. This can be very frustrating if they're stuck with laners who are slow on the draw / not confident / bad.

Tanky junglers are shit at invading. Similar to being vulnerable to invades, you generally won't have to worry about them moving into your jungle.

Basically, tanky junglers need their team to work in tandem with them; they'll have a very tough time carrying a pack of resistant apes across the victory line. While this may seem like a pretty pathetic weakness, this is super important in yolo que.

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