Huge issue with executioners calling and the grievous wounds revert.

sunshine kitty··5 votes·1,466 views

Lets look at how many champions have the ability to heal allies.

Sona, Nami - They will just go back to being irrelevant due to how weak their heals will be with a Runaan's Caitlyn, Sivir Ricochet, etc. applying the healing debuff to your entire team.

Soraka - This is really the only champion that has been problematic due to the grievous wounds change. Don't destroy the 2 champions above because of it. She will have the same problems as Sona and Nami if this change goes through. Needs a rework from the ground up.

Janna, Taric - You can argue the change made them too strong but it can easily be fixed with slight tweeks/nerfs.

Kayle, Bard - Their heals are mainly for the move speed boost and are normally maxed last anyway so nothing really will change.

Nidalee - I assume it will hurt her but not enough to kill her. I'm not sure how she will be after the mid year mage update so its hard to say anything about her.

Alistar - His heal is meh. Not a big part of his kit.

Fiora, Kindred - Seems like a huge nerf to their team fighting for the same reason as Sona,Nami and Soraka.

Riot even said the point of the change was to let healers do their job so either don't change it, remove executioners calling or heavily nerf it. Executioners calling should build into something that you have to go out of your way to build opposed to something that's common in every ad champions build (last whisper.)

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ChaddyFantome3 votes

Fiora, Kindred - Seems like a huge nerf to their team fighting for the same reason as Sona,Nami and Soraka.

As if Fiora's Ult is used for the actual heal instead of just killing someone 9/10.

The heal from Kindred ult is negligeable. You are using it to not die. The heal is just a bonus on top of that to make the not dying part stick.

sunshine kitty1 votes

FIora's team fighting is already bad but the healing is what makes her able to group once she has items. Fiora would just be complete garbage unless she could sit in a side lane for the entire game with the grievous wounds revert. As for the Kindred healing if the enemy team builds an executioners calling it puts her at a disadvantage and forces her to build her own executioners calling so she doesn't have to be at a disadvantage by using her own ability.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

nope

sunshine kitty1 votes

You need to realize how much executioners calling will hurt Sona, Nami, Fiora and Kindred if they revert grievous wounds.

Pika3101 votes

Sona actually won't be affected by it at all. She's already the weakest support in the game, she can't go any lower than she already is.

Venowolf1 votes

Could you tell me how is the grievous wound revert?

Irelia Bot1 votes

TRhey learned the hard wasy that nothing keeping Soraka heals in check is a better problem then having somethign hurting her heals.

I don' t think they will be leaveing GW as it is for long so expect the AD item to get an active or something to apply it.

Pika3101 votes

Sona is already irrelevant, Patch 4.13 made certain of that. Reverting Grievous Wounds won't do a thing to her, she's already the weakest healer in the entire game.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Healing/Sustain is too strong early game right now. It is totally invalidating poke bullies AND in some cases all in champs. Grevious wounds revert isn't going to help much on the poke end though because grievous wounds isn't actually applied that much. It will help a bit with making sure all in bullies can drop fools.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Sona and Nami will not be weakened by this. They are not primary sustainers, they typically use their heal as a trading tool. If anything, the strength of sustain I'd hurting Sona right now because she can't get her poke to stick.

Nami is a CC/Poke mage, and will still do her job just fine.

Soraka is the only one this change will really hurt and that's fine because she's sitting at 54% winrate even after repeated nerfs, the highest of any support, along with a 17% ban rate which is pretty high. A support has to be really busted to draw bans over the other carry lanes out there.

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