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Maybe if the Assassin in question has a specific mechanic and you played right into it (Kha'Zix isolation), it'd be acceptable. On the other hand though, a Talon or Zed dive bombing an ADC from 100 to 0 out of absolutely nowhere is just kinda...silly, imo.
Thoughts?
Buff Jax please5 votesThats the purpose of an assassin.
Leopards Ghost1 votesit also doesn't usually happen until well into the match (like when adc's are 4auto'ing your mages)
Maximum Morde2 votesSo basically you are admitting that their very design is anti-fun and they have no purpose being in the game then.
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So basically you are admitting that their very design is anti-fun and they have no purpose being in the game then.
Yes, that's why you should have one or 2 assassins in the game, like dota 2 or Hon. When you have 10 assassins in the game it's quite difficult to make them different.
KillerKell3 votesIn other news, Executes shouldn't Execute.
You picked a Marksman. You know that demands you to Position properly. In some cases it even leaves you to having to trust your Team Mates to Peel. You knew the risk when you took the Role.
He took an Assassin. He knows if a Tank sits on his face, he's dead. So he has to position properly, or he dies.
You know, sort of like you.
So how about you ask your Tank to sit on the Assassins face for you? Or if the Assassin dives, ask the Tank to be ready and crush the little bastard.
You took a Low HP Champion... of course a Full Kit to the face is going to end you.
He's an Assassin. What should he do? Kill you with Arsenic over the course of 12 Years? No. An Assassin takes the blade, slits your throat, and you're dead before you hit the ground. That's the entire IDEA.
You work within a Team Dynamic. It's not about Champion X versus Champion Y, it's about Your Comp versus Their Comp.
Stop thinking so damn Micro and start looking at the Macro.
Contrary to popular belief, this game isn't about any one player.
So it's not about if your Marksman can kill that Assassin 1v1... that's stupid. It's about if your Marksman can coordinate with him team better than that Assassin, so you can WIN as a Team.
Errastas1 votesThat's too much logic for this place, their hate is strong.
MLDzXnRRR3 votesSomeone like Talon has no way to deal with Tanks and Bruisers, unless he goes for DPS build (but this doesn't make sense, because if you wanna play DPS, you pick champ with some synergy with the items - Talon has low base AS and AS per lvl, and Zed has even lower, so they can't scale with crit and AS like someone like Yi (actually Yi's base AS and growth are not good, because he could get away with building with just 1 AS item and using the ult, if they were high) - champs with decent AS and AS steroid )
Amelie2 votesIf you can see them coming, I think it's fair since you can prepare/react.
I think it's more stupid that something like Rengar can come from any direction in stealth (you can't prepare for it) and delete someone in one second.
Baby Ghoul2 votesI think that the assassin should quickly take out their target. That's not the problem.
They should be highly mobile squishy killing machines with little utility (honestly most of them could probably operate fine with zero utility). Assassins should be a niche pick. What an assassin wants to do is prey on a disorganized team. They want the squishy targets that are out of position or alone somewhere with no vision. Punishing players like that, while most find it not fun to play against, is what they're designed to do.
In the worst situation where the assassin is fed, they should be able to withstand skirmishes, but still be mediocre in team fights. If they don't get fed, then they should continue to be mediocre throughout the entire game. An assassin should not be reliable like they are in this game. They need to be punished for building defensive items like they once were.
The problem right now is assassins are no longer glass cannons. Their builds and kits give them enough sustain and utility to dominate the game. That is what is unhealthy.
Before if someone fed an assassin, you knew what was going to happen. You could prepare, now you really can't because they're almost mess proof. It makes counterplay much less realistic.
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TehNACHO2 votesActually I am a Tank and Fighter heavy Top and Jungle main.
Simple mistake, I know, since they're practically the same thing anyway. I won't beat you up on it.
Rain Smurff1 votesif you nerf assassins you indirectly nerf anti carries. Kassadin, Lulu, Orianna, and alot of other supports. It is your job as an anti carry or support or whatever role you are taking in order to peel or have some kind of sustain in any shape or form to stop the assassin and protect your damage backline.
Sorry for the rather awkward explanation, but these are roles people need to understand.
venomous frost1 votesthen what do assassins do? if you want damage you can go bruisers, if you want to tank you build a tank, who's there to stop high mobility adcs from killing everyobdy? yes assassins
Quepha1 votesI have always thought Kha'zix's isolation mechanic and passive were really cool and emphasized what it means to be an assassin without just giving him flat, stupid power.
spombjop1 votesassassin can't 100-0 ADC if ADC has only 1 defensive item. for example vs LeBlanc 
or 
and vs AD 
only KHA can but kha is broken champ so we won't include him, he can even 100-0 full tank rammus, that's just retarded
spombjop1 votesTanks and bruisers can kill carries basically in the same way as assassins while being tanky, assassin at least needs to go full dmg to do damage.
