Hello, so I've been thinking I want to find a champion that is difficult to play but is amazing when mastered. Azir seems to be a pretty good one as of right now. Just want to see any recommendations for some difficult champions, thanks in advanced!
Athenes Lulu18 votes
is actually a good one.
If you're an idiot and/or don't know how to assassinate, you're going to have a hard time.
Narasimha18 votes
Any other answer is unacceptable.
Because now not only have you mastered a champion that requires true dedication to use, but you've also mastered a champion that 90% of all players have no idea how to play against.
Zack41252 votesThis is true. Around 80% of the community, if not more - including myself - does not play Urgot. I still know how he functions and how to counter him but most people don't. And the newer players today don't even know who he is.
That's a great answer.
841153 votesCan confirm, Urgot main. Can win top against nearly anybody when played right (at least in the depths of high bronze/low silver).
also max lethality ftw 
Spicy Rice15 votesVOTE 
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datfatguy7 voteslove how can make a wall with his ult...
Im Fine Thanks5 votes[deleted]
Aptest7 voteshow can you make Noxus pay for wall though?
ZED G0D12 votes
EDIT: Allow me to elaborate.
The possible combinations of combos you can make with her ult make her highly flexible. From 2 dashes 2 long range pokes 2 binds A passive clone when health is low. Wall jump capability EXTREMELY high damage output with right combos Safe play ability (Can Dash in with W and do damage then jump back to your original spot using W again)
she is a bit difficult to master and get all her mechanics and combos down...but once you learn her and adapt your play style to her she is a monster of a mage
Ruin Lance5 voteslb is not hard
AR URF2 votes[{quoted}](name=Ruin Lance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QWJ0zm6Q,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-03-07T03:13:29.760+0000)
lb is not hard
He's talking about skill CEILING, not skill floor. Learn what those two things mean.
Ruin Lance1 votes[{quoted}](name=AR URF,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QWJ0zm6Q,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-12-19T16:06:21.186+0000)
He's talking about skill CEILING, not skill floor. Learn what those two things mean.
wow you are special aren't you? you realize my post is 2 years old? also no, the OP clearly says: "champion that is difficult to play" fuck off with your necro posting
AR URF3 votes[{quoted}](name=Ruin Lance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QWJ0zm6Q,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2017-12-20T20:22:53.935+0000)
wow you are special aren't you? you realize my post is 2 years old? also no, the OP clearly says: "champion that is difficult to play" fuck off with your necro posting
Well that's my bad I wasn't paying attention to the date, but what's your point? I have just as much a right to post as you do and I'm not wrong about what I said.
Pawn of hearts5 votes
EDIT: Allow me to elaborate.
The possible combinations of combos you can make with her ult make her highly flexible. From 2 dashes 2 long range pokes 2 binds A passive clone when health is low. Wall jump capability EXTREMELY high damage output with right combos Safe play ability (Can Dash in with W and do damage then jump back to your original spot using W again)
she is a bit difficult to master and get all her mechanics and combos down...but once you learn her and adapt your play style to her she is a monster of a mage
what makes lb so hard?
I mean like Eazy quick to learn.
-simple combo -simple ability -dodge skill shot easily -mobile -damage
quick easy combo to lb it like
Q + W
E + Q + W
Q + W + R
and you simply play around with the R repeat certain ability and a kill
Schenix12 votes
Itadaki Seieki9 votes
If you're into supporting, anyways.
It's a really strong pick, if you know how to abuse the early game damage it brings.
TBH; It's all about timing with him, and when it's mastered it's totally spooky.
Rudolf Antler9 votesAzir is probably the HARDEST champion to master mechanically and he gives alot of payoff when used successfully. Though I'd say zed/leblanc will give you the best payoff simply because of their ability to assassinate and get away to safety easily with great roaming and snowball potential.
Banana Nations9 votes
PLEASE DONT HURT ME
Apocalypsic8 votes10/10 would say except actually mastering her now doesn't really matter anymore in this meta
Hopeslayer6 votes
and riot will never give him real nerfs because of LCSBIGPLAYS
Ryùuzaki6 votes
Itankyou6 votes is # 1 ez
HolyLordFrumpuss2 votesYes he is his damage is insane for an advantage and he is fun. When you're playing Draven LoL becomes a minigame
grug6 votesGP 100% over and over and over
why?
-shit lane phase -gets bullied by nearly every matchup -goes oom incredibly fast -terrible trades early game -essentially no mobility -pretty much only seen nerfs in season 6 -HIS MAIN SOURCE OF DAMAGE IS DESTRUCTIBLE -probably one of the most balanced champions in the game.
ShaolinToilet5 votesGo can pretty much delete ADCs even without barrels late game.
Xcàl4 votesi agree. but i wouldn't say he's harder to learn than Zed or Riven. The only high skillcap mechanic of his is using one-part, and three-part barrel combos. The rest of your list doesnt make him tough to learn. you pickup his do's and don'ts after about one game of being dumpstered. However i disagree with your statement saying he has low mobility, his r when fully upgraded with raise moral, his barrels, his boots, and the Pd and Statick shiv purchases all give him insane mobility. And you can negate his mana issue with the meditation mastery, a dorans ring or spell thiefs purchase lvl 1-5, a corrupting potion, and eventually a sheen.
DeloricVI5 votesA lot of people will probably say and I'd agree. Although is another good one for this.
Slamurai Jack5 votes is pretty up there even after all the nerfs he's received.
Taric the Gay5 votesA little Peepo3 votes[{quoted}](name=Taric the Gay,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QWJ0zm6Q,comment-id=001f,timestamp=2016-04-04T22:18:04.259+0000)
My opinion may be biased though.
He's definitely hard to play as taric :3
Taric the Gay6 votesHe's definitely hard to play as taric :3
Oh he is hardest to play with when I am in the game. His hardness exceeds that of diamonds. Trust me, I know my gems ;)
jaymc11305 votesIn order:
warpenguin5554 votes or
KushDid4204 votesThere is no other answer than Azir.
High skill floor and higher than heaven skill cap makes him a very demanding champion.
If you master Azir, games are auto GG because there's no way in hell your enemies can
Catch him Team fight against him Touch him stay unscarred by his soldiers Push
Even though he isn't played that much in competitive, he still can carry alone in solo Q where everyone loves team fighting
Other than that I think Cassiopeia is second and maybe Karthus because of his unique playstyle
Bhagswag4 votesAzir. You've seen what they did to him once the masters started destroying everything.
MysTiiC Aero4 votes 
SimplexSam4 votes
Takes incredible perpetual skill to master, you wouldn’t understand the pain of having to press r and then roll your face into the keyboard to get a penta, you just won’t understand.... did I mention 
. I really don’t understand this champion, the mechanical skill he takes is insane, decades of practice won’t even get you one kill, you have to be pretty much a god to hit e and r on your keyboard
TheLobbyLegend1 votesI really hope that this is sarcasm, lol. The two easy champs...
L Psy Kongroo3 votesI'd say 
, but she's getting reworked (again) so it's best not to try to learn her atm.
is a big one, and she can be picked along with any comp and do fine. She's very versatile.
I'll also second . If you master Shaco, you can master pretty much anyone.
figold6663 votesImo, My top 3 are:
3: Fiddlesticks: With all of the bursty people around fiddle dies too fast, but with a correctly played ult he can get a triple or even a pentakill.
2: Nidalee. She has a huge damage output but dies if not played correctly. Her spears are hard to land, especially in lane.
1: Urgot: If played right is the best kiter in the whole game. Takes down tanks and is really tanky but lacks mobility and burst.
Honorable mentions:
Leblanc deals eye-watering damage but dies really fast. If you get your combo off you are going to win your matchup 90% of the time.
Evelynn is hard to get to know, but then becomes really easy. She has trouble building tank and high burst, but can deal crazy sustain damage.
Champions who I think are portrayed as hard, but aren't:
Riven: All you have to do is qqq.
Swain: Has some difficulty but if you get Roa and zhonyas you can win most 1v1/2 with ease.
Katarina: Slam your head on your keyboard and you get a pentakill.
Kuzja13 votesI'm not really good at aiming so I'll have to say 
is my most difficult champion to master but does prove very effective in-game
Matthewicee3 votes You require great skill to play this champ
MaggyMage3 votesI think Udyr is the hardest champion to master and no one plays him so he never gets banned. No one is fully mastering him not even Trick2G (btw if you want to see a good Udyr player then watch Trick2G) and if Udyr is mastered i think he can oneshot like everyone. Thats my answear.
Mysticman892 votesVayne is the adc who first comes to mind. She's far from the 'hardest' champion in that she can be used fairly effectively without having totally mastered her, but 1v2 or even 1v3 outplays are very possible against evenly fed opponents if you're exceptionally good, and a fed late game vayne in the right hands can legit 1v5.
Most hands are the wrong hands and attempts to 1v5 will go poorly, as will 1v4s, 1v3's, and probably 1v2's, but the potential is there. (Draven is the other mechanically difficult but potentially rewarding early game alternative, where in the right hands you will snowball due to all the extra kill gold his passive produces.)
Azir and lee sin have lots of mechanically demanding stuff they can pull off if mastered too for mid/jg roles. Probably an honourable mention to Zed where some fancy shadow swapping plays can be a thing.
Bard and kench both have a pretty high skill cap for effectively using their skills to their fullest potentials. Here it's less mechanically difficult so much as strategically difficult.
I don't know much about top lane stuff these days now that I think about it. Something like riven maybe, but I really haven't played enough top lane champs to get a feel for who is really mechanically difficult in the big picture and who I'm simply just bad at.
CR4ZYRONDH4VI2 votesI would say Azir. He is extremely strong in team fights when mastered - even after his nerfs.
Niyume2 votesThere is no champion that's hard and more rewarding than braindead clickers when mastered. Just play something like Jax, Yi, Trynd, or any ADC and you'll do infinitely more damage, and it'll be far less effort.
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votesNot Azir.Lb and Nida.
warpenguin5556 votes[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QWJ0zm6Q,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2016-03-07T14:50:37.866+0000)
Not Azir.Lb and Nida.
Why not Azir?
blfUvZ8Ybu2 votesWhy not Azir?
Because he isn't rewarding.
SithesisLord3 votesHe is, actually. An Azir with a piss poor self and soldier positioning can only hope he doesn´t feed.
An Azir with excellent self and soldier positioning can do more than just dashing behind people and shoving them under his tower with ult.
LB and Nidalee are really easy to master in comparison.
