I personally believe ryze's issue stands in his ease of waveclear

dontspinbutwin·12/12/2019, 5:52:13 PM·1 votes·3,644 views

First off, the ryze nerf was quite significant,I'll give riot that. 15 damage off his Q shaves off about 60 damage (Q-E-Q-W-Q-E-Q, s 4x15). However, Ryze is still beyond frustrating to fight against.

The change to fixing him would be simple. Make it so his E doesn't spread to other minions when cast. Revert it so if ryze uses his E on a spell flux'd enemy, spell flux spreads. This gives some time for the enemy to respect ryze is gonna clear the wave, and gives them 2 seconds to make a move. Really sucks when you're behind minions and his Q still hits you.

With this minor change, his damage output would be the same, but with more E usage, his mana would deplete a bit more and it would stall his waveclear

7 Comments

VampiricNarwhal12/12/2019, 6:34:27 PM2 votes

It’s funny how they reworked Aur Sol for having too much of a push and roam play style and then made Ryze a push and roam champ

WoonStruck12/12/2019, 11:55:08 PM1 votes

Look at his EQ damage. With a 2.25 second CD worst case.

There's why ryze is an issue.

Whether or not he has waveclear, the combination of dps and burst throughout the game makes me question if Riot hires from hope network or something.

Crescent Dusk12/13/2019, 5:36:14 AM1 votes

Midlane has been seeing a total wavepush creep making champions like Annie and Vladimir obsolete in it.

With how easy it is to take river objectives and roam turret dives and take turrets once you've killed outnumbered opponents, easy waveclear is the biggest asset any champ can have.

It's why Qiyana mid is a balanced assassin and Zed/Akali are not. Qiyana mid has high kill pressure and her win condition is to kill her opponent out of lane, but without Tiamat her wavepush is atrocious, limiting her roam potential in exchange for her kill threat.

Meanwhile Zed gets 2 longswords worth of AD in a passive on top of easy 6 sec cd Q+E clears and goes roaming, as does Akali. Ditto for Syndra, Ahri, Zoe and Orianna and Ryze and Tristana mid, way too easy waveclear and roam potential for how much damage they do.

You either get waveclear or kill potential, but you shouldn't have both.