Best Junglers?

Sworeclipse·Sep 18, 2016·1 votes·1,126 views

So, I really need more good jungle champions. I like kindred, kha zix (hard to play though D:), and rengar. Are those champions good/decent? I'm looking for strong burst-y kind of champions.

28 Comments

AstôlfoSep 18, 20162 votes

Kindred's been hit hard by nerfs and is pretty much worthless without a ton of experience on them. Kha'zix/Rengar are decent-ish but against better players, they struggle usually because of how hard countered they are by pinks and grouping.

SworeclipseSep 18, 20161 votes

Oh ok, so what you're saying is that Kha'zix and Rengar are good for lower ELO? Are there any other junglers your recommend?

AstôlfoSep 18, 20161 votes

They can be incredibly strong in low ELO. Most people don't ward, first of all. Most people also consistently overextend. And pinks are practically nonexistent. Evelynn is another like this.

Amumu, Fiddlesticks, Warwick, and then pretty much all attack speed spammers (Master Yi/Jax/etc) are good because of how simple and effective they are. They're also incredibly strong in low ELO because:

Amumu has both high bases and high scalings and almost no one can dodge skillshots (aka, learn to land them).
Fiddlesticks has good sustain and CC and his ult can devastate entire teams.
Warwick can out-1v1 just about any champion in the game and suppress is very good CC.
No one knows how to end a game meaning lategame hyperscaling autoattack-speed carries like them will get their items and then proceed to kill everyone and take down towers like butter because no one knows how to stop splitpushing or fed duelists like them.

TormentulaSep 18, 20162 votes

Those champs are good. Kindred takes a lot of practice inorder to play right, you need a very good knowledge of the game and a team that knows how to peel for you. I wouldn't recommend kindred for lower elo, even when she was broken, now she's kinda garb everywhere but has a little success from kindred mains in higher ratings.

Kha and Rengo are good. I wouldn't say they suck higher elo, pink wards don't screw them that much considering they're about getting on a target and one shotting, kha in particular doesn't use his stealth for anything more than jukes and passive resets. Rengar may have hard ganks but only like 30% of the time a higher elo player is holding a pink ward for your ultimate and you can tab to see if its worth your time.

Only other junglers I can really say are very good right now and easy to pick up in lower elo is Amumu Volibear Zac Skarner Fiddlesticks Evelynn

Some others like Elise Nidalee Rumble Kayle Graves are great also but have a different playstyle and skillcap that might be hard to get used to.

SworeclipseSep 18, 20161 votes

Thanks so much!!! I think that I'll get kha, rengo, or zac xD. The only problem I had with kha zix is that he's a bit hard. Will you eventually pick him up after a lot of work or after a couple of games and guides?

TormentulaSep 18, 20161 votes

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Thanks so much!!! I think that I'll get kha, rengo, or zac xD. The only problem I had with kha zix is that he's a bit hard. Will you eventually pick him up after a lot of work or after a couple of games and guides?

After a few games the feel for him is pretty easy. After doing a combo you'll naturally do it and the jungle clearing will get easier (first clear is hell for new kha'zix players, watch a vid). Whether or not you see success will be as you experiment with what champions you can duel, catch out, what fights you can jump backline in, etc. Thats just player knowledge rather than kha being mechanically tough. He's only tough if you're trying to do some really crazy diamond E assist resets that are nearly unpredictable, and even thats not needed for success.

Rengo is the one with a lot of mechanics despite him looking like a press R champ. Every ability has a second ability based on a consumable meter.

General assassin gameplay is just not picking the wrong fights and not diving 1v5. Kha is a 1v1 champion and his Q passive increases damage to targets in a 1v1 scenario.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 18, 20161 votes

best junglers lets see ... Bard Galio Heimerdinger Janna Lulu Nami Orianna Singed Sona Soraka Swain Talon Teemo Thresh Urgot Veigar Vladimir Zilean Zyra

if i missed any plz correct me

Roit GumsSep 18, 20161 votes

....really? you missed braum....

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 18, 20161 votes

i think braum could be a pseudo tank jungler lol to be honest

TormentulaSep 18, 20161 votes

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best junglers lets see ...

if i missed any plz correct me

Teemo jg is a legitmate thing. The only thing trolly about it is teemo as a champion ingeneral. http://na.op.gg/champion/teemo/statistics/jungle

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 18, 20161 votes

yea he is 23rd win rate out of junglers, its iffy at best

Weapon of VanitySep 18, 20161 votes

graves , elise , zac , hec are my favs

SworeclipseSep 18, 20161 votes

ah ok, heca looks pretty good, zac does too

DruceSep 18, 20161 votes

Zac Elise Graves Evelynn Kindred Are all great right now, also RekSai Gragas are worth noting.

SworeclipseSep 18, 20161 votes

Are you sure about kindred??? Many people say that kindred died after the huge nerfs.

DruceSep 18, 20161 votes

Kindred is really good with a bit of experience. Definitely not dead.

Roit GumsSep 18, 20161 votes

Graves and Khazix are god tier

SworeclipseSep 18, 20162 votes

Oh ok, I'm not very interested in graves but I am in kha zix. I tried him but he's a bit hard.

EndlessSorcererSep 18, 20161 votes

If you are looking for strong junglers in low-ELO, I would probably recommend: Amumu Volibear XinZhao

I would recommend against Kindred at the moment; they were hit rather hard by nerfs.

SworeclipseSep 18, 20161 votes

Oh ok, I already tried amumu XD. Do you have any burst-y junglers for low elo?

EndlessSorcererSep 18, 20161 votes

Honestly, Volibear and Xin Zhao can be extremely bursty considering how difficult they can be to kill.

I prefer playing tanks and fighters in the jungle, so I can't really comment on assassins (which seem to be what you are asking for).

SworeclipseSep 18, 20161 votes

ah ok xD (and yes im talking about assasins ;D)

ImAMountainGoatSep 20, 20161 votes

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If you are looking for strong junglers in low-ELO, I would probably recommend:

I would recommend against Kindred at the moment; they were hit rather hard by nerfs.

What about higher elo? I'm seeing (don't know how to do the link thing) Vi, Zac, Amumu, Sejuani on nerfplz.com (last updated 3 days ago)

EndlessSorcererSep 20, 20162 votes

Honestly, I'd just recommend sticking with what you know in higher ELO play. While certain champions might be objectively more powerful, playing a champion you are experienced with and who suits your playstyle will pretty much always be better.

Obviously, one could argue the same regarding low ELO play, I find the main issue is that people are picking complex champions and not playing them appropriately.

If you are looking for good options, I would pretty much always recommend tanks or durable fighters. Though, that is partially because I find most other players pick squishy carries, so if I want CC and durability on the team I have to pick it myself.

Personally, I love playing Udyr. I just find that he clicks with my playstyle and I know how to play in most situations on him due to experience.

I've heard many people say that he was weak or gutted after the nerfs to his Phoenix Stance and Turtle Stance, but he is still the jungler I find success with most reliably.

ImAMountainGoatOct 16, 20161 votes

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Honestly, I'd just recommend sticking with what you know in higher ELO play. While certain champions might be objectively more powerful, playing a champion you are experienced with and who suits your playstyle will pretty much always be better.

Obviously, one could argue the same regarding low ELO play, I find the main issue is that people are picking complex champions and not playing them appropriately.

If you are looking for good options, I would pretty much always recommend tanks or durable fighters. Though, that is partially because I find most other players pick squishy carries, so if I want CC and durability on the team I have to pick it myself.

Personally, I love playing Udyr. I just find that he clicks with my playstyle and I know how to play in most situations on him due to experience.

I've heard many people say that he was weak or gutted after the nerfs to his Phoenix Stance and Turtle Stance, but he is still the jungler I find success with most reliably.

Fair enough. That seems to be the standard answer. Though I've heard that low elo and higher elo are vastly different in what champions are strong/weak. Thank you :)