Tank Supports Dominating Bot Lane

Krystab·Oct 25, 2019·4 votes·1,443 views

Tanks have overtaken the bot lane dominance and is frustating as a Support main to try other mages supports (Im fine playing nautilus, leona though)

Tanks not only have cc, and high resistances which is fine, but they SHOULDNT have that HIGH damage [sg-ahri-3]

Just by example worlds 2019 Pick rate Rakan 36 Nautilus 38 Thresh 29 Leona 14 Alistar 10 Blitzcrank 8

Exception Pyke 10 Yuumi 10 Morgana 8 Karma 4

Champions like Nami 0 Soraka 0 Lulu 0 Lux 0 Sona 0 Janna 0 Bard 0 Brand 0 Zyra 0 Zilean 0

They die if just a tank hooks and engages on them taking almost all HP, doesnt this tells something to riot to currently look at the damage that naut, leona etc have at the moment?

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18 Comments

Darkdemon653Oct 25, 20194 votes

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Just by example worlds 2019 Pick rate Rakan 36 Nautilus 38 Thresh 29 Leona 14 Alistar 10 Blitzcrank 8

Rakan, Nautilus, Thresh, and Blitzcrank are not tank supports.

boricCentaur1Oct 25, 20194 votes

Rakan yes but is picked for similar reasons. The rest are all tanks like what? They build tank, they are played for the same reasons you pick a tank meaning they are tanks.

Also don't give me "well they're classified as controllers" that was stupid when riot added that subclass and it's stupid now and nautilus was still classified as a tank.

They are tank supports. Like wtf are they if not?

OtterlyLostOct 25, 20192 votes

They are definitely tanks. Nautilus IS THE tank boi. Thresh and Blitz are similarly tanks. Rakan is some weird fusion that I don't know how to classify.

Darkdemon653Oct 25, 20191 votes

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Rakan yes but is picked for similar reasons. The rest are all tanks like what? They build tank, they are played for the same reasons you pick a tank meaning they are tanks.

Also don't give me "well they're classified as controllers" that was stupid when riot added that subclass and it's stupid now and nautilus was still classified as a tank.

They are tank supports. Like wtf are they if not?

They're hook supports. The only reason they have any amount of durability is Aftershock. If Riot ever fixes Aftershock, the lack of durability those champions have will become more apparent.

boricCentaur1Oct 25, 20193 votes

That is one of the dumbest things I have read. Leona is not a tank support she is a stun support. See same logic.

No they were tanks before aftershock and again if you build only tank and are picked for cc and peel you are a tank that is the only things they do.

The main point of a tank is to cc and be tanky, building tank makes you tanky and all of them have good cc.

Darkdemon653Oct 25, 20191 votes

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The main point of a tank is to cc and be tanky,

They aren't tanky at all (again, outside of Aftershock). That's why they aren't tank supports.

The Ghost RiderOct 25, 20192 votes

The thing about that is that they actually are tanky though. Like, Thresh, Nautilus and Blitz were known for being tanky before aftershock was introduced. Idk if you only get players that run AP Blitz and ADC Thresh, but these characters are intended to be tanky

boricCentaur1Oct 25, 20191 votes

If you build full tank you will be tanky wtf. They were tanks before aftershock too.

OtterlyLostOct 25, 20191 votes

I mean... Nautilus has a shield, builds defensive items, and I believe has high Health, MR, and Armor growth though I'd have to look.

Thresh literally gets more defensive stats off collecting souls and also has a shield and builds defensively.

Blitz also has a shield that pops when he gets low and builds defensively.

IDK in what universe that champions with self shields, high health/mr/armor growth, and that build defensively oriented items are not suddenly tanks. Its kind of like if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, its probably a duck. There's a very very small chance its a goose but you tend to know the difference between those pretty quickly with you know... the honking and being a general asshole.

Arcade LuluOct 25, 20193 votes

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Lulu 0

Wasn't Lulu picked once by IG in the last match agains Fnatic?

Dunno about others because i didn't watch most games

But yeah, gotta agree with you. Tank supports are annoying af I highly dislike playing with melee champs, so i can't really even try to match the meta I'm just here with my Lulu and Nami (Among other enchanters)

KrystabOct 25, 20191 votes

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Arcade LuluOct 25, 20193 votes

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Oh Once.... And Lost [zombie-brand-clap] http://prntscr.com/pnzvzy

Still picked tho [slayer-jinx-wink]

They lost because they didn't have skin synergy in botlane. Pajama guardian AND Star guardian. Why?? They would've 100% won if both of them picked Pajama guardians [sg-lulu]

KrystabOct 25, 20191 votes

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Still picked tho [slayer-jinx-wink]

They lost because they didn't have skin synergy in botlane. Pajama guardian AND Star guardian. Why? They would've 100% won if both of them picked Pajama guardians [sg-lulu]

Pixie needed to tank some damage in order for them to win [vayne-pose]

only lucianoOct 25, 20193 votes

It's not fun when you have 800 HP and a full combo with ignite/Aftershock from a tank support does 600 damage?

iMidg3tOct 25, 20192 votes

They're picked because tank supports usually shine the most in a coordinated enviroment. Unless they're dogshit, tanks with teamfight potential will always be picked at worlds. And their kill potential (cc-locking some1 to death) is why they are okay in SoloQ.

And its kinda funny that you pointed you that enchanters aint played on bot at all, since we all know who was the biggest offender during the Ardent meta (spoiler alert: it were enchanters).

As a supp main idgaf what supports are meta, but you guys cant make up your mind- do you want tank supp meta, which relies on high kill and teamfight potential, or you want enchanter supp meta, which is basically bot lane wins laning phase = bot lane wins the game?

Baby GhoulOct 25, 20191 votes

Tanks in general are in a bad state.

What you're likely referring to is more so their engage/lockdown. Thresh isn't a tank nor is Rakan .

Let's be honest, hook supports have BS hitboxes. Nautilus 's hook takes up half the lane even though the animation does not. However, we can say the same about your precious Morgana 's Q you dirty mage support mains.

Just kidding...mostly, but yeah supports with hard engage like Nautilus and Leona are all crazy strong bot lane. They just happen to also be tanks. Tanks like Braum are not strong right now and picking them is almost like trolling with how fast bot lane gets called.

Most importantly though, professional play is not the same as solo queue. The pro's still despise Yuumi and it's because her kit is fundamentally broken. It's just not strong in a solo queue environment anymore after the nerfs (thank god). The game that they're playing is different from ours.