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Can we please make Graves impactful again?

Quáx·2/11/2020, 3:06:30 PM·5 votes·2,313 views

Now a disclaimer. I do not main graves, I like playing the champ from time to time because I enjoy his kit, but in short it has 0 impact on the game and I feel like Im shooting bubblies at them, I am not asking for another rehash of season 7 graves 1 shot with DH and annihilate with deaths dance, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just asking for him to be better, he's been out of meta for a fair amount of time, and I feel like I'm just useless unless super fed, his utl does 0 dmg, really just do something about graves, it feels like shit to play him.

16 Comments

Nøctμrne2/11/2020, 7:53:00 PM2 votes

Graves is one of the strongest junglers in the game right now and is played frequently in Diamond+. He still one shots going dark harvest, just farm nonstop and it doesn't matter if you're 1/5 on Graves you just start to kill everyone. He does not need any buffs whatsoever.

SirWimder2/11/2020, 5:05:32 PM2 votes

What? not meta graves?

Ummmm, I would suggest putting more time in on the champ to learn him better.

In my jungle testing just last week, In all the champs i tested, He was in the top 5 clear speeds.

Takes dragon SUPER early and easly.

I would assume that its a positioning error that needs to be corrected, As I honestly think he needs to be toned back just a smig. If played right, he takes over the game!

CasterGilgamesh2/11/2020, 6:20:40 PM1 votes

i mean hes not bad now but not very "OP" i would say maybe just let him have three bullets instead of two and just call it a day also give his smoke screen an AD scaling instead of just ap scaling thats all

5d0x4allx02/11/2020, 7:11:41 PM1 votes

Graves is perfectly fine, he's not particularly meta right now but he's not in that bad of a spot.

MarcReady2/11/2020, 7:26:54 PM1 votes

The problem with graves is that he only deals damage: so, when he is strong, he dominates, when he's weak, he feels useless. The only utility he has comes from his W, that has a niche use and has a long cooldown. They should give him some kind of utility, maybe improve his w with charges of something like that, I don't know. For sure he feels useless when played against burst mages or long range adcs who can shot him without letting him do anything

myamia2/11/2020, 3:15:56 PM1 votes

doesn't he have the safest jgl clear or something?

ThunderCraft2/11/2020, 8:25:41 PM1 votes

How about no.

FSRER2/11/2020, 3:51:11 PM1 votes

Pros:

  1. One of the best clear times in the game
  2. One of the few champions that can survive a full on burst from an assassin and can burst them back at the same time
  3. In the current meta, he can easily take down drake early on solo

Cons:

  1. He has to get close to the enemy team to deal maximum damage

TLDR; he is very impactful if you learn how to play him properly and pick him in the proper team comps and against the proper team comps