Realistic Yasuo Changes

Baunjo··2 votes·692 views

I have never thought of Yasuo to be OP to any stretch of the imagination and still do not. However there are some serious issues that defy how his class is set up, namely being the advantages he recieves for doing almost no work.

  1. There is for the most part no disadvantage to using your E or just basic moving, and neither of them take an even remotely adept skill level to do. Therefore, shouldn't one or the other generate substantially less flow than the other?

  2. I have no problem with Yasuo having armor pen. After all, assassins do tend to attack high damage targets first, and they do not usually build armor. But honestly, is there any technical skill that I am missing for pressing R when one of your teammates lands a knock-up? Your teammates have already done the work for you and you get to turn that into a very dominant advantage. I think it would be reasonable to give Yasuo a higher Ult cooldown and lower armor penetration if he ults a target that he did not knock-up.

Although there are only 2 changes here, I think they would turn Yasuo into a more healthy champion by better fitting him into the " high risk high reward " or just reducing advantages created by basic knowledge and absolutely no mechanical feat. After all, there is nothing more frustrating than losing to someone you know without a shadow of a doubt is a much worse player than you, but it is hard to win simply because that person knows how to click a mouse and press E or R without actually having to think, and with certainly no drawback.

Good luck out there summoners!

20 Comments

Ruin Lance3 votes
  1. your E does have disadvantages and it does take some skill to use properly. i could tell you all of the times that i accidentally E'd into the enemy tower, i guess that's user error though. sometimes I E too early and die because I couldn't E back to safety/use it again on the same target. it also pushes your lane, which can be a good or bad thing really.
  2. getting a good ult with just your 3rd Q is EXTREMELY hard, especially against a good team. Without someone to help Yasuo actually get into their team, he pretty much can't do anything and will just get instantly blown up if he ults the wrong person or doesn't get to ult and tries to get to their backline any other way. his drawback, as I said, is that he can instantly become the focus of the enemy team the moment he ults. It's very easy to shut down a bad Yasuo, as many will push their lane and never learn to stay under tower or freeze lane to make sure that they don't get ganked, even after it happens multiple times. Camping an enemy Yasuo can be a really easy way to get your mid laner fed. Hopefully this helps, even if what I said is pretty unorganized. Just sharing some insight.
Baunjo1 votes
  1. His E takes no mechanical skill to use whatsoever. If you decided to E to all of your minions and not use one to run away with that is not a disadvantage, nor is forgetting the range of your spell and taking tower damage.

  2. Oh no you mean a 5 man ult will actually take skill? Do you not think I have played Yasuo? Becoming the focus of the enemy team? OH NO! It's like that's smart teams do against a champion like Yasuo. And camping Yasuo is not counterplay to something that really needs fixed.

It's not like I'm saying they need to remove the ability for him to ult off another champions abilities, it just shouldn't be so easy for him to gain such a great advantage simply by existing practically, not because of anything amazing he did whatsoever.

Ruin Lance3 votes

ok so if he can just get focused down then what is the problem edit: oh nevermind you're silver 4 that's why you're making this. probably shouldn't have wasted my time

Baunjo1 votes

I have never heard an elitest statement like that from someone 2 divisions above me xD.

A single ult combination like malphite yasuo can destroy a team. And yasuo is not the only person on the team that does damage, but you wouldn't know that because you are only silver 2 x)

Ruin Lance1 votes

it's not an elitist statement. it's saying that you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. I have 250k mastery points with yasuo so i know him a lot better than you do. I don't think you understand that getting blown up by yasuo's ult is YOUR fault. you can easily just not clump up together and you can easily avoid getting ulted by him, simple. and if it's just you that is trying to avoid it then you can dodge it. i really don't think you understand that if you are fighting a team that how to deal with yasuo, and yasuo doesn't have someone else to knockup for him, that he is borderline useless. that "advantage" that is his synergy is something that he NEEDS to be good. now i won't be responding anymore so get what I said through that thick skull of yours.

Baunjo1 votes

Your logic is very flawed. You do understand that you can feed with a champion for a thousand games straight and get to that point? Probably less, actually.

Getting blown up by Yasuo's ult is your fault if you get hit by a tornado, which are generally very easy to dodge. Getting knocked-up by a malphite ult that you couldnt exactly flash out of the way of in time should not be the reason Yasuo get's to destroy a team, with no drawbacks. That's just stupid.

EDIT: Yasuo is sure is hell not borderline useless. He just has to be smarter and rely on his actual mechanics. " Well its just not fair if people are actually smart because then I can't play good without relying on my teammates " sounds like an excuse to me.

Baunjo1 votes

EDIT 2: I like how you followed up saying " that was not an elitest statement " then decide to add in an even more retarded elitest statement xD

Indominus Blade1 votes

Yasuo isn't an Assassin, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Baunjo1 votes

please feel free to enlighten me on what yasuo is then rather than saying " you're an idiot " and leaving

Indominus Blade1 votes

Fighter

Baunjo1 votes

What champions does he go for first? If we wanted to be really technical here, Yasuo would be a Melee ADC. Whatever role he falls under does not change my suggestions whatsoever, you are just being a termnazi

Stars Shaper1 votes
  1. If you use your E at the wrong time you are dead meat. Dash into the enemy without caring of positioning? You're dead! Dashing into minions not worring about the turret there waiting for you? You're dead!

  2. I guess it's not that harder than landing Ziggs or GP (or anybody's) Ultimate onto stunned targets or the knocked up one either. Thinking that only Yasuo gets advantage from other team mates (aka synergy) is simply a show of ignorance.

Baunjo1 votes

No no no I am saying that Yasuo is freely given the same advantage from the work of his teammates that he does from his own play. You completely misunderstood what I said, or you are refusing to understand that he is given a great advantage by the work of his teamates. He can be the cause of that advantage, but that takes actual work, hard work at that.

Stars Shaper1 votes

You totally ignored point one, I guess it's because you agree with me and recognised your mistake.

What you are probably missing is that Yasuo as a whole is a team character, he even doesn't get a full immunity skill because his wind wall is something the entire team can make use of. Plus you are talking about totally oblivious character that would stacktogether when lets say a Malphite and a Yasuo are there in front of them.

Also you are denying again that synergy is something that exists also for other characters, want to see something similar? Galio + Miss Fortune. All Galio has to do is flash in the enemy team and MF has a free Penta.

Baunjo1 votes

I already went over point 1 and you decided to bring back the exact same point I already disproved.

If Yasuo is such a team player why is he built for the role he is?

I never once denied synergy with other champions. Yasuo's synergy with other champions is damn near impossible to avoid, however.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

I don't think you've ever played Yasuo before op

Baunjo1 votes

Oh yes I have xDDD

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Looking at your post it seems like you have no idea what Yasuo even is

Baunjo1 votes

Ok man you have fun with that!

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Yeah same

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