daily reminder that Lee sucks and is literally like the worst jungler in the game

I GANK LANES·Aug 28, 2017·3 votes·580 views

thoughts on buffs? i was thinking:

AD scaling on shield give back some, of his AS debuff on his E along with it giving true sight. i mean he's a blind monk it only makes sense thematically and it really was an unnecessary nerf. higher base damage on ult, but lower the scaling. to encourage him to function more like an actual bruiser

people who play lee know what i'm talking about; literally every jungler outclasses him right now. what do you guys think? the people that actually play him

8 Comments

BúbblegumAug 28, 20175 votes

How about you leave this overplayed trash as it is now and nerf broken things, enough buffing champions for no reason.

He will be strong again(not that he isn't if played correctly) after Riot nerfs all the overpowered things.

I had enough of seeing lee sin every single game, I can finally take a break from that annoying monk.

Zero DriveAug 28, 20172 votes

LeeSin Used to be a great jungler to use for invades and he was the king of early game 1v1's. Now you can lose 1v1 level 3 against a damn Master Yi EVEN IF YOU LAND YOUR Q. That's what blows my mind. He's still good for stealing camps and pressuring via ganks but let's be honest there are so many better options if you want to put a AD Bruiser/Assassin in the jungle these days: Graves Kayn Pantheon Twitch XinZhao MonkeyKing .

Edit: They'll never give him AD scaling on his shield unless they rework him into a full assassin. The AS debuff removal was overkill and killed Lee top, would love to see it come back along with the true sight. I'd rather they gave him a higher scaling and lower base on the ult, reward lee for snowballing. Then again I want Lee to just be an AD assassin. Never liked him as a bruiser. His kit is pretty decent for assassinations if they just tweaked his numbers.

I GANK LANESAug 28, 20172 votes

his kit just sucks ass right now. after 10 minutes and come mid game you're not tanky enough to soak damage yet you don't even do damage if you could theoretically get in close enoguh to execute it because if you build 2 damage items youre squishy af. he's just complete trash right now and it's sad to see because he's one ofthe most fun champs in the game. like im literally spamming rammus right now, hes so strong it's ridiculous. his clears are great he his ganks are super strong and he scales extremely hard.

its like im forced to play just what's meta. i liked playing lee not because he's good but because he's fun. although now i dont even bother because i know im basically handicapping my team by picking a shit jungler.

Sun Wu RyuumokuAug 28, 20171 votes

MonkeyKing my boy isn't a good choice for a jungler. Tank scale better, and if :

u wan't to snowball Lee, elise and even gragas are better
u need an assassins Kha do better

DenevielAug 28, 20172 votes

There are champ in far worse condition ... Kindred just to name one. I'm honestly quite happy to not see him in any game.

I'm also ok on some small buff like a better base shield value or some minor stats buff but nothing more than that

KONO RUBICK DAAug 28, 20171 votes

i was so happy when lee got nerfed, and i remember how he used to rule the jungle in high elo before the cinderhulk buff and before lee nerfs

but he needs to be buffed for one reason, he still has 20% pick rate and i'm fcking tired of my jungler picking lee in this meta and forcing me to dodge

also no, as debuff will never be back on lee he's supposed to fall off, and he didn't fall off before when he had as debuff because it still gave him massive utility in late game

SEKAIAug 28, 20171 votes

Being more or less average for once =/= sucks or even worst.

TheDrunkenMasterAug 29, 20171 votes

I feel like they should give him a sort of sensing ability similar to Rek'Sai. He is blind as we all know and it'd be cool to use that in some sort of way.

Giving true sight back to E is a great idea, but what about making it a shock wave that gives you sight in a 360 radius like Quinns? Could even reactivate it to slow seen enemies or something.

Could even make him more "sensitive" to sounds where he could sense when an enemy is attacking or using abilities in the fog of war.