Buffing Jax's E

Denims Wrath666·Mar 27, 2015·3 votes·1,317 views

Remember nimbleness? you'd get a dodge proc, and that would initiate your combo by rushing their face... I honestly miss that. Jax is so outclassed as a champ. he needs a tiny buff by just adding a small movement speed buff to his e. even base the movement speed to scale with attack speed giving it real nimbleness relatively. also, get jax's e fixed a bit by blocking a few things that shoulda been blocked anyways... Nasus/gp Q, ren stun, darius slow, rek tripple hit. those are still auto attacks, even if enhanced its still inconsistent. also make the cast time faster to stun, and longer lasting so people cant just wait it out just like they do with his ult. this change would make this fun champ actually useful again besides just a meatshield lategame. also, bring back wriggles please.

45 Comments

WullfMar 27, 20155 votes

Jax is monster in mid/late game even if he is doing poorly in lane.

Jax imo does not need buff. He is in a good spot.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

no he isn't. i play high plat low diamonds and I never see him. you obviously dont play him, you just lose to him and think he doesnt need a buff. you're like one of the reasons jax is just a nerfed blob compared to what he was.

WullfMar 27, 20151 votes

last time I saw him was when I played him. Well I will not lie, I am no top laner but I had some success when I played him.

The fact that he does not appear in plat (and neither in gold for that matter) is not a matter of him being weak. I just saw him being played in challanger series, so I do not think that he could be so much weak.

Also I do not appreciate that you automaticly assume that i am just some John that knows nothing.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

I apologize on the accusation but its regrettably honest. You haven't played jax to the amount I have, and trust me on this when he is nothing compared to what he was. The nerf after nerf after nerf, to losing wriggles for top, Jax needs a small buff. There are too many broken champions atm that buffing someone who could bring some counter play to these matchups could bring some actual balance to the lack of bans in this meta. this small buff would bring back jax's initiation to a higher stand point making him relevant as a champ played again by other people rather than the bored high elo players.

WullfMar 27, 20151 votes

Apology accepted. I kinda understand this attitude after dealing with LoL players.

But to Jax, Games i played were normals, so they were more relaxed. If i am forced to top in ranked i rather play some safe pick or champs I am more familiar with.

Still, It was alarming how quickly Jax gained power after lvl6 and building that 3force.

To make him more viable (because viability is his problem I'd say) he might require some rabalancing. Not just buffs. Because purely buffing him, might lead to him being obnoxious. And he does have potencial to be obnoxious. (Though it would require skill)

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

well im not asking for a damage buff. this little change could bring him to par with fighting a riven top earlier with a faster e stun, or even catching that fkin dashing trollop. this small buff would make him an actual threat for engaging later on with stacking passive and rushing into a teamfight. its not buffing his damage, its his utility that needs a bit of help. lets not forget here, i am asking for his e to be fixed at the very least to block abilities it actually should block. at the very least.

and yeah, the lol community has made me a bit more assinine now with dealing with salt almost every game. its like people think after watching a few streams they know every single posisble play they suggest is the correct one. my thought process is this... these people who think the pros would agree with them, would also call these exact people terrible players.

WullfMar 27, 20151 votes

Funnily I think that all it would take for people play him more is texture/model update.

Though it would not make him stronger or more viable

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

man I never see him unless I play him. this suggestion would bring him back a bit. i play pax jax, so the update on him wouldnt matter to me in the slightest

WullfMar 27, 20151 votes

PAX Jax is awsome. I loved that skin way back and I still do.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20152 votes

Regrettably I agree.

I think Jax is still really strong and a monstrosity in the mid-late game.

HOWEVER, his current state doesn't allow him to be the top choices anywhere.

He could use a little Ooomph somewhere.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

well thats why im saying a small movement speed buff on his e would help him all around. plus fixing the mechanics of it.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

I was thinking more on the line for him to have more innate bulk.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

see that made people rage and bitch and whine and cry and cut themselves because of his old passive... his girth isn't the issue, its the lack of utility. like his passive now could even use a tiny bit more attack speed.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

See, what I actually want, tho it would possibly him very over powered, is for him to have Phage's Passive as an addition to his Passive, and can stack with Phage again :P so his early game would go beyond crazy :P

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

i dunno that sounds a bit too much tbh. if he had that, and phage, and feror, it would be basically impossible to run from him, because he'd have like +100 ms from just autoing one thing, and thats not even the finished triforce kill grant.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

Ya, that's why I said it's gonna be too op.

100% perma ban jax :P

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

well phage is usually his first part to the triforce anyways, so that passive really wouldnt be that relevant. like ok, lets say they did that. it gives +5 movement speed every stack of passive, so +30 at 6 stacks of passive. i guess thats not too much really, it all depends on how much faith we have in rito's balancing of buffs...(there isn't much there)

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

It will provide Jax with a strong source to stick on the target regardless of slows etc.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

well my suggestion does that too, just a bit differently and more of an escape rather than an yours is more for consistant initiate.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

Haha, true.

Guess it shows our different playstyle :P

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

well a good example is i rush sight stone on jax first. woulda rushed wriggles...but... :( it hurts to talk about it.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

wait wait wait wait whaaaa??? lol I was thinking top jax not jungle jax lol

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

yes. i rush sight stone on top lane jax. start ruby 2. my match history with jax is proof it works...usually. but there is always bad games too. the sight stone rush prevents ANY jungler presence top.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

That's a new. Never tried nor seen it before.

I build my Jax standard....

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

dude i also bork nasus, and hydra malf. im a bit of a meta changer.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

I can see Hydra on Malph for the Aoe adding to his E.

I can also see jax with SS for the vision and Q jump

But Botrk on Nasus? for what tho? what does it provide?

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

well i ghost flash nasus right? no tp... i use those ss for lategame chasing carries... the bork helps with chasing adcs when they either have it, or have qss. it also helps baroning, also, its pretty nice getting half your health back with 1 q.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

Oh you don't take TP?

Idk...I think if you want Lifesteal, i'd say Hydra :P

I tried Hydra on Nasus when I was smurfing. THAT DAMAGE DOE.(I was around 800 stacks at 38 minutes into the game)

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

hydra fks up the q stacking. bork does %damage and has chase/disengage. thats too much to ignore, its simple math...most people dont even understand what "do you mind" means, so i feel sympathy when they dont realize how good bork is on nasus.

FHMarshyMar 27, 20151 votes

True, but I didn't build Hydra until had 600 stacks....

Idk, I've always thought Nasus as a 2 shot killer. Botrk could certainly help him chunk down the tanks tho.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

lemme put it this way. after fh,sv,bork, i can usually 2v1 np. and if i win beating the top laner and jungler, they lose two turrets in 1 push. the attack speed also helps push when you ult under the turret with the enemy minion wave there. q, smack smack smack, q, instead of q, smack smack.

BeatzBoyFTWMar 27, 20152 votes

Tips on how to master & carry as Jax:

Wait for level 6.
Grab
Enjoy the carry

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

facepalm you didnt even read any of the comments did you. the whole purpose of this suggestion is to boost 1 champ to bring a bit more balance to the gameplay. im seeing the same champs almost all the time, buff one to change the mix up a bit.

PrinceArchieMar 27, 20151 votes

Jax isn't outclassed in the slightest, he's one of the best duelists in game. His E does not need a buff as it provides so much already in terms of damage (with some spell) avoidance and an aoe stun. Jax requires skill, no you wont be able to just rush someones face after getting some passive to proc, im sorry pick another champ with a very low skill ceiling. I play jax as well so this isnt some outside view, he is very fun and I like his scaling alot but in no way do I think I'm outclassed if I play him. He can take on many matchups if played properly.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

thats your opinion, and ill allow it... but its wrong. there are too many champs out there that just dump on jax for a big chunk of the game that the only way to recover with him is basically ks. also, there isnt actually much skill in jax. point and click, hit r, hope you kill someone before you die, or hop to a ward to escape. you can pretend like you're shutting me down in this, but i can already see your faults in thought process. blnt kappa

Darth Pixy MisaMar 27, 20151 votes

Less Cd on counterstrike.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

well playing cdr jax is already pretty strong if you do it, the cd isnt an issue. its just not difficult to just walka way when you see the e used when laning against a jax, or his ult for that matter. if this e had a movement speed boost, he wouldnt just get ignored when he feels like all inning.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

if you're ignorant enough to down vote a small buff for a champ that needs one, have the balls to provide an explanation to your disagreement with a most likely borderline retarded response please. would be appreciated :D

Only Play DariusMar 27, 20151 votes

Jax has always been one of the most difficult to balance champs. Make his numbers just a bit too high and he becomes obnoxious.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

this isnt a big buff though dude. im talking like 5-10% more movement speed when e is going, with a scaling movement speed stat with attack speed. this would really only result in like 30 or so movement speed which isn't that much. plus you're forgetting that his e needs to be fixed anyways. like i said, it doesn't block some things it should. just tossing that as a "buff" would help jax so much

Fizz is not FishMar 27, 20151 votes

some ap ratio on E will be good. yes, i only play ap jax.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

actually, some games ill grab the seekers armguard myself. zonyas after you qwe into their team confuses them, then you ult and wreck. works like a fakin charm. his e should scale with some attack speed though, not ap.

GaleWinUnleashedMar 27, 20151 votes

I've got a brother that would play Jax, and almost always destroys his opponent when he does. But Jax has one major flaw from his point of view. He's deadly boring to play. It just ends up being a ball of stats fight, and whoever has more wins.

Denims Wrath666Mar 27, 20151 votes

i dont know about that. i like to go ham with most of my champs, so boring depends on how you play.

Denims Wrath666Mar 28, 20151 votes

just trying to get this noticed again. i slept on it and it still seemed good to me.