Reduce Illaoi's Q dmg to minions

Shac Norris·Dec 20, 2015·26 votes·1,718 views

I hate it when i'm trying to lane against her and she just 1 shots the entire wave of minions with 1 Q after her first ad item...

18 Comments

MunchCrunchLunchDec 21, 20152 votes

reduce illaoi QEWR damage. to EVERYONE. i literally. watched illaoi do 80% of max healht damage. to a lux . WITH HER E. that THING IS A NIGHTMARE. 80% damage dude.

Jason the otherDec 21, 20159 votes

yeah thats the point of a bruiser: to be able to deal lots of damage up close why would a lux even be that close to a illaoi...

MunchCrunchLunchDec 21, 20151 votes

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yeah thats the point of a bruiser: to be able to deal lots of damage up close why would a lux even be that close to a illaoi...

BUT HER E IS FOR UTILITY. WHAT ON EARTH DOES 80% OF SOMEONES HEALTH DAMAGE. LIKE THAT. THATS NOT COUNTING THE TENTACLES. that was literally. JUST THE FUCKING SPIRIT DESTROYED. that was it

JustMyBassCannonDec 21, 201511 votes

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BUT HER E IS FOR UTILITY.

NO IT IS NOT, YOU SCREAMING JACKWAGON.

If it was only for the purpose of utility, it would grab the champion instead of creating a clone of them. It would actually apply CC that hinders them, instead of potentially slowing them for breaking the tether. The debuff would be something other than "creates more tentacles that attack the vessel."

It is her only utility, but it is purely for the sake of dealing more damage.

Sightless66Dec 21, 20152 votes

BUT HER E IS FOR UTILITY.

It doesn't really do jack shit for utility. All it does for utility is apply a slow after they walk out of the circle or you kill the spirit. Everything about the skill is damage. It allows you the chance to do up to X percentage of the enemy's health, and then it spawns tentacles that attempt to do more damage.

You can not create a kill with a lone E like you could with a utility spell. You can not protect someone with it like you could with a utility spell. You can barely CC someone with it, unlike utility spells. You can hurt someone with it. It's not a utility spell. It's just damage.

Shac NorrisDec 21, 20151 votes

Are you trying to be sarcastic?

Try harder, its not working.

firsttimerop666Dec 21, 20152 votes

i honestly think shes balanced. shes kinda like zed where if she dosnt snowball shes pretty useless

Shac NorrisDec 21, 20151 votes

I beat her in lane, kill her 2 times, she uses ult, deals half of my hp with 2 tentacles hitting me at the same time, than just use her w again and im dead

Weasel KenseiDec 21, 20152 votes

She has the damage and sustain of a Warwick, and the ability to fight 1v3 with her ult up and come out on top.

Yes you can "walk away" from her to avoid her ability to close in on you... but if you do that enough then youre behind your turret watching her farm and chip your turret instead of playing... so, idk how people always make these arguments that insert X champ is so easy just do X and win... when if that was the case... no one would play them.

Iv said this before, but her ult makes her as unkillable as Tryndameres and dose a whole lot more damage.

Her E is the definition of irritating. Stay and take 1.5 damage, leave and get free harass for longer than it takes to cooldown.

Eventually the matches will be nothing but 10 really irritating to lane against champs, and people will get sick of the game because no matter what, youre laning will be shit because all irritation all the time.

LazyMitchellDec 21, 20151 votes

THANK YOU Bard

Honestly hit the nail on the head here. Everyone says if she beats you your positioning must be poor or just back away from her... but like you said "Take X champ and do X thing and win isn't a thing" Stack on a ability with zero counter play except to out damage a person that no one can out damage and Illaoi is kind of just stupid. To anyone reading this DON'T LET YOUTUBE TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK - I'm almost positive everyone that says she sucking or is balanced just watched the Bjergsen video and that formed their complete opinion for them

BlackBattlerDec 21, 20151 votes

You guys keep arguing Illoai isn't broken because people don't ever have to group or stand still in teamfights and then everyone on the other team instantly dies. lol

ParaBellamDec 21, 20151 votes

I actually think it would be a pretty cool mechanic if it dealt more base damage than now, but if that base damage was spread across everything she hits.

So if she hits 3 targets (2 minions and a champ) it would deal a third of the damage to each target.

But if you're so thick-headed that you can't either dodge a tentacle or hide within minions, then you get really hammered.

JustMyBassCannonDec 21, 20151 votes

Gragas' E used to do that, down to (I think) 1/5 damage spread across all targets.

Then it turned out that it left his single-target burst insane and his AoE lacking.

MChaiserDec 21, 20151 votes

And wait!! Its not just the Q, herself ALL deal lots of damage so early even if she's not feed or even if you kill her earlyer. without mentioning the heal she gets from her tentacles

TotalJerkDec 21, 20151 votes

If she's shoving the wave like that it makes her more vulnerable to ganks.

Shac NorrisDec 21, 20151 votes

Doesn't matter if i have to use all of my mana to cs under tower because she used 1 30mana ability

MephistophilisDec 21, 20151 votes

She's balanced or underpowered, she works well only with aoe cc in her team and/or against a team of morons who group up near her R. I don't see any reason to nerf her.