Can we admire it for a while?

Psychø ßeta·Mar 5, 2019·4 votes·2,035 views

Top: Jayce - Pickrate: 12.35% Winrate: 50.42% Riven - Pickrate: 12.18% Winrate: 53.76% Yorick - Pickrate: 7.99% Winrate: 52.85% Jax - Pickrate: 8.18% Winrate: 52.19%

All that while Urgot is Winrate: 43.38% Pickrate: 2.77% :)

Jng: Rek Sai - Pickrate: 12.81% Winrate: 53.53% Evelynn - Pickrate: 7.10% Winrate: 51.66% Elise - Pickrate: 11.25% Winrate: 51.24% Nidalee - Pickrate: 8.07% Winrate: 51.18% Jervan 4 - Pickrate: 16.31% Winrate: 50.59% Xin Zhao - Pickrate: 12.73% Winrate: 50.07% - how many season is he meta now?

All that while Amumu is Winrate: 47.19% Pickrate: 1.01% :)

Mid: Zed - Pickrate: 13.07% Winrate: 51.49% Lissandra - Pickrate: 12.62% Winrate: 51.00% Zoe - Pickrate: 12.50% Winrate: 50.60%

All that while Akali is Winrate: 44.09% Pickrate: 1.16% :)

ADC: _Vayne - Pickrate: 23.65% Winrate: 52.17% _ Jinx - Pickrate: 7.60% Winrate: 52.11% Sivir - Pickrate: 18.00% Winrate: 51.78% Lucian - Pickrate: 21.88% Winrate: 50.66%

All that while Xayah is Wnrate: 47.17% Pickrate: 2.95%

Supp: _Thresh - Pickrate: 31.55% Winrate: 51.02% _

All that while Tahm Kench is Winrate: 44.78% Playrate: 2.75%

How long do we have to wait for nerfs for Vayne, Thresh, Riven and Rek Sai? 4 patches? 8? To the next season again like with Graves? Riot, you need to hotfix more champions, so that the game is at least a little bit fair.

15 Comments

Sir SaltarinMar 5, 20197 votes

All that while Akali is Winrate: 44.09% Pickrate: 1.16% :)

Which is fine since Riot said that they were going to overnerf her and slowly add power to her in a similar way that they did with Zoe last year, it's not random that she's terrible now.

Psychø ßetaMar 5, 20192 votes

Have you even noticed Riot that if you get Vayne + Thresh it is gg? They are both bot lane btw.

BigChinLesbianMar 5, 20192 votes

As a support main I do not believe Thresh is broken by any means. He is just the most fun support to play, and almost every support main feels the same way. And I dont think any champ besides reksai needs a nerf. I think they need to tone down the items that make the champion broken. Just my 2 cents though

Psychø ßetaMar 5, 20191 votes

31% playrate and 51% winrate cannot be achieved if a champion isn't beyond broken. This is just a fact.

Now, my opinion is that he has too much control over matches and hit hitbox on hooks needs to be fixed. It is flying next to you and then it teleports to you. Magic. He is a better magician than LB and Harry Potter.

TobykachuMar 5, 20195 votes

Saying Thresh was the most enjoyable support to play was certainly true upon his release, however, with the advent of newer support champions you simply cannot use this as justification for him maintaining such a high play rate. Bard, Pyke and Rakan all offer similar levels of playmaking + utility that Thresh offers and I find that they're all equally as enjoyable Thresh, if not more so. Thresh is currently able to be played both incredibly offensively whilst also offering incredible defensive options. It would be like if Tahm Kench Q always stunned a target.

hhaavviikkMar 5, 20192 votes

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Saying Thresh was the most enjoyable support to play was certainly true upon his release, however, with the advent of newer support champions you simply cannot use this as justification for him maintaining such a high play rate. Bard, Pyke and Rakan all offer similar levels of playmaking + utility that Thresh offers and I find that they're all equally as enjoyable Thresh, if not more so. Thresh is currently able to be played both incredibly offensively whilst also offering incredible defensive options. It would be like if Tahm Kench Q always stunned a target.

I still can't believe pyke is designated as a ''support'' when he's effectively just an assassin that requires 0 cs to be able to assassinate

AyzevMar 5, 20192 votes

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I still can't believe pyke is designated as a ''support'' when he's effectively just an assassin that requires 0 cs to be able to assassinate

He can't reliably assassinate on his own. His Q is CC and his E is CC + gapclose, and to compensate they don't deal all that great damage. He does need team mates to shine. Alone, any other assassin bursts significantly harder. Though, that only addresses balance. It is still questionable whether an assassin support is even remotely healthy for the game.

TobykachuMar 5, 20192 votes

It's debatable whether an assassin support should ever have been green lit as the two roles are so uncomplimentary, but if Zyra, Vel'Koz and Brand are allowed to be considered mages the I see no issue with conceptualising an 'assassin support' especially when the end result is actually fairly balanced (apart from his passive and W synergy, f*ck that healing).

For the sake of my argument, Pyke offers a play style just like Thresh, is rather difficult to play just like Thresh and offers a big pay off if played well just like Thresh.

Killer of Night9Mar 5, 20191 votes

Amumu has such low winrate? i tough he has a ~50% w/r with 2-3% p/r.

Chembaron YamadaMar 5, 20191 votes

And then there are still some people who claim that Urgot wasn't gutted.

AlzonMar 5, 20191 votes

Draven “Let’s admire me for a while.”

Xayah is still super strong in any level of coordinated play. Amumu is pretty good there too, since his main weakness (early invades) can be countered by his teammates intentionally picking champions who get early lane priority alongside the Mummy being picked. However, his effectiveness decreases at the highest levels of play due to sidestepping, spreading out, better and coordinated counterpicks, etc.

Psychø ßetaMar 5, 20191 votes