Ekko changes

Weiner the Pooh·May 17, 2016·2 votes·331 views

Lowering the damage of his ult by 50 does not warrant increasing its scaling by 20 percent, that's an unnecessary overly generous compensation.

14 Comments

KanzlerMay 17, 20162 votes

So you will take about 90 damage (before resistances) more from a full build ap ekko? If you would rather keep tank ekko where he is, feel free to say so.

Weiner the PoohMay 17, 20161 votes

No, they just shouldn't increase the scaling at all, its not needed. Do you really think that an ult needs 150% AP scaling? Name one other champion who has that.

theragingnerdMay 17, 20162 votes

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No, they just shouldn't increase the scaling at all, its not needed. Do you really think that an ult needs 150% AP scaling? Name one other champion who has that.

Wukong has a 400% ad ratio on his cc spell and thats ok why?

Weiner the PoohMay 17, 20161 votes

Wukongs damage is over a few seconds, Ekkos is an instant nuke.

theragingnerdMay 17, 20161 votes

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Wukongs damage is over a few seconds, Ekkos is an instant nuke.

And so what?

IgotlazyMay 17, 20161 votes

Wukong's Cyclone takes 1.36 seconds to reach the same 150% scaling as Ekko. The Knock up lasts for about 1.25 seconds. So that leaves you with 0.11 seconds to GTFO before the scalings match. Not easy to do. Monkey King wins.

IgotlazyMay 17, 20162 votes

Wukong has a 440% AD Scaling on his Ult. Scary shit. Lucian, with his Ult on a single target, has a 600% AD Scaling AND a 300% AP Scaling.

Keep in mind the Ult is never guaranteed damage. For AP Ekko it's usually used as a Get Out of Jail free card and not a "You all gonna die" button. I mean if he sets it all up well and the enemy team walks into the circle, I think they deserve the take the hit.

Fun Fact: The ability with the largest AP ratio is Annie Annie's Summon: Tibbers, with a maximum AP ratio of (+ 515% AP) counting initial cast of (+ 65% AP) and the target taking damage from all 45 ticks of tibbers aura damage ((+ 10% AP) per tick).

Weiner the PoohMay 17, 20161 votes

Like the other one, those are over time of a few seconds, Ekkos is an instant nuke.

IgotlazyMay 17, 20161 votes

I responded to this in another comment chain. Still though like I said... "Keep in mind the Ult is never guaranteed damage. For AP Ekko it's usually used as a Get Out of Jail free card and not a "You all gonna die" button. I mean if he sets it all up well and the enemy team walks into the radius, I think they deserve to take the hit."

KanzlerMay 17, 20162 votes

Because AP ekko is balanced. they arent just going to nerf his base damages without compensating AP ekko somehow. Besides, if you get hit by his ult, you deserve to die. To use your logic, name one other champ whose ult CD and location you can see as the enemy team.

IgotlazyMay 17, 20161 votes

Errr... I'm agreeing with you. Did you reply to the wrong comment?

KanzlerMay 17, 20161 votes

eh, i got lazy and didnt feel like navigating through the endless maze of replies so i just picked the latest haha

Edge of DaybreakMay 17, 20161 votes

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No, they just shouldn't increase the scaling at all, its not needed. Do you really think that an ult needs 150% AP scaling? Name one other champion who has that.

Name another champion who has 0 ways of reliably ulting you? It could have 1000% scaling and you could literally go an entire match without ever getting hit by it since he has no way to make you walk into it.