How we went to "i lose,mb i did some mistakes" to "i lose, look at my mates 0/10 !"

StormBladeMaster·12/7/2019, 5:11:52 PM·4 votes·5,059 views

Hello, i don't want to be this "guy" who criticize his mates and never question himself but this season is where i'm starting to breakdown.

First, i'm Honor 4 and i'm planning to get Honor 5. I always support my mates, i never flame, sometimes i can give some advices on items to buy, i hardly surrender. Ofc i'm not perfect but i'm not toxic and i'm not flaming. Sometimes i can be "annoyed" but i will never blame my mate in the chat. I never write these things in the chat.

But this season is horrible when it's come to "stomps" games. What is a "stomp" ? It's a game where you lose at 5 min because you see a "0 vs 15" kills in the screen. You check your mates KDA and you see "0/7" on bot lane and "0/5" in mid lane.

The enemies are so feed that you can't carry, even if you are doing good. But you can't change the game, it's too late.

That what we call a "stomp". It's not funny and it's clearly annoying to play a game like this because it's feel like you have no power on things.

I wouldn't mind if this didn't happend 1/3 even 1/2 games.

Back in previous seasons, when i lose, i always used to tell myself i could have done better on some points. Because my team wasn't hard feeding, the KDA were correct and only a few littles things decided the fate of the game. It's wasn't lose at 5 min, i wasn't angry or annoyed because these games were funnier and i had the fun i wanted to have.

But now, i'm like "Serious bot is 0/5, i don't play to play this game anymore". I write this topic because i have played a game some minutes ago. I was playing Chogath vs Shen top and i was doing "correct". Not well but i wasn't feeding. I was 2/0. A pure normal kda.

At 12 min, i looked at my bot lane Ashe Senna, they were 0/9. Ashe had 4 deaths and Senna 5. In the end of the game, they ended like this :

Ashe : 0/9/3 Senna : 0/12/2

Yeah yeah, 2 assist on Senna at 20 min because the game finished fast. Can you imagine that? I was wondering why i was trying to play correctly. It's useless. Do you agree ? It's useless... There no point in playing "correctly" or trying to play correctly when you see this.

Ok it's a normal game and i'm tryharding. Actually i'm not tryharding but i'm trying to play correctly because i don't want to make my entire team lose because of me. And you have this bot lane. Casually 0/9 at 12 min of game. I'm like "what happened on bot lane ?" I don't understand. Clearly i don't understand how they can be 0/9.

You want to know what is better ? Our Yasuo mid, with 2/10/2 KDA vs Kassadin mid. He builded a item 3091 (first item).

I knew i should have banned him, you guys probably want to say " it's my fault, why you let your mate play Yasuo ?" you know Yasuos always feed...

Yeah yeah, i'm stupid. My heart is too pure. I tought that he would not be like the others Yasuos, that he would play corretly. My innocent and pure heart didn't ban Yasuo and i let my adorable mate plays his beloved champ. Now i'm crying because it's was a terrible mistake.

And to finish, i had this great jungle Nidalee but i will not criticize her because she was kind. I was supposed to be jungle (autofill) and she decided to swap with me. I honored her even with her 4/9/2 KDA but i knew it's wasn't her fault. What do you want to do as jungler with this bot and mid ? Especially when you play an early cham that needs to be feed to be useful.

What can i say ? Nothing... I don't understand, i have no words to describe this.

I mean it's not like i want to win every games. I know somes games are lose, others are wins. But i don't understand why when we lose, it's always stomps. I don't understand why i see a big gap beetween our teams.

How do we came from "balanced games with loses on a small details" to "permastomp games" ?

The famous quote "you are good, you win" is not true anymore. It's more "you are lucky, you win". How i'am supposed to play or do something when all lanes are hard feeding ? My enemies are feed and oneshooting me. There no possibilities to help or carry your team when you can't even approach without being oneshooted.

I never criticized my mates as much as this season. Ofc i don't criticize in the chat but behind my computer, i'm talking and i'm shocked. I don't understand how we can have these huge gaps beetween teams. Maybe Matchmaking is broken...

I started to play ARAM and you know what ? I used to hate ARAM because random champs. Now i'm like i loving it and it's don't bother me that much to not choose my champ because there swaps and rerolls. And snowballs help me to be useful even if i have a melee champ.

I have made a 31/15 game with Qiyana in Aram. I never tought it's could be funnier than SR.

Less stomps, more fun... Even tought it's not a champ i choosed but the games are funny.

Before i would play 3c3 when i was bored of SR. Ofc i'm bored of SR especially when you get stomped every games. That why i want fresh air.

I don't like TFT but at some points, i'm thinking it's funnier to play this than SR. I feel like everything is funnier than SR.

Tell me i'm not the only one who feels this.

22 Comments

AdamrCc12/7/2019, 9:56:07 PM5 votes

Matchmaking is actual crap and does not pair people of equal skill. It's as simple as that.

Illabethe12/7/2019, 6:31:51 PM3 votes

The biggest factor is that it's preseason, and "anything goes" .... at least in the minds of players in mid elos.

Their play has no consequence because they will get a soft reset in January, and they get no real rewards for playing right now.

Also, people are testing champion thresholds and what they can do more, and nor exactly sticking to metas.

Smurfs are playing accounts they do not care about in ranked, because normals are boring and usually surrenders.


That being said, it's annoying ofc. My last game last night, my team literally inted 0/4 on a self provoked invade...... It looked like we had a better invade for the first 7-8 seconds...... and then my adc and jung just started chasing a vayne they couldn't catch, while Vayne's Leona kept rooting them. I got stuck buried in a 2v3 while they got picked off. They fed Vayne 2/0, then I died to their jung, and then mid died to Vayne.

Level 1 3/0 Vayne.

Team acted like "nothing's wrong."

Adc proceeded to int into Leona 4-5 more times and top hard fed. Evelynn ate our Mundo Jungle. By about 8 minutes we had a 8/0/9 Vayne, a 5/0 Evelynn, and something like an overall 4/19.

I actually had the most damage on team with a whopping 9k damage Senna. Mundo did 3.4k. Mid did 4.3 Top 5k.

Vayne? 23k. Evelynn? 21k.

Once they inted to the Vayne/Leona, we basically had no bot lane at all. Jhin would die, then I'd die or passive behind turret.


You know what's funny? Season 10 will probably be a little more normalized than Season 9, with the reduced support gold, reduced plate gold, etc. But this is STILL how preseason is turning out.

pIlIThomas12/7/2019, 5:52:25 PM3 votes

Because the matchmaking system has been broken since inception. Sure, it correctly puts the top 10% and bottom 10% where they belong. But the other 80%? Not so much. Add to this fact, the snowball hell that is s9 and s10, leads to toxic stomps because two players in the same MMR can have MASSIVE skill differentials.

Hayaishi212/7/2019, 11:42:10 PM2 votes

Nautilus Can pretty much solo your ADC during the laning phase, imagine what happens when he and his ADC are ahead? Literally impossible to survive him.

The game has too much damage, everything can 100-0 you with 1 item when you fall behind that is why avoiding deaths is pretty much impossible unless you stay at base.

NaughtyWord12/7/2019, 10:39:29 PM1 votes

I find flaming team mates is counter-productive. If someone is having a rough game, I fail to see how being an ass to them is going to make them perform better. In fact, I believe it will do the opposite; make them perform even worse.

I know this is probably years of management experience talking but you get more flies with honey.

Now opponents, I'll run my mouth all game, I want my opponents good and tilted. If I kill you, you can believe I'm flashing mastery, emotes, saying snarky shit in all chat, and the whole 9 yards.

Darkstar Annie12/8/2019, 2:01:04 AM1 votes

It's not "look at my mates 0/10" this season. It's "look at my dragons 0:5"

The thigh guy12/8/2019, 2:04:31 AM1 votes

I stand by it. It’s the fucking tower plates. A kill isn’t just 300 gold and minions anymore.

It’s 300 gold + 320 gold in turret plates and minions. Who would have thought that doubling kill gold would be a problem.