Rengo might need some small tweaks

Lord Desert··11 votes·863 views

Before you comment something, i would recommend watching this before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIswLrs7us

So i think the kitty is just a tiny, tiny bit to strong, but really just a tiny, tiny bit. Oh and he can get up to 1.7k Ad max, did i mentioned that already?

EDIT: If you still need some more evidence of how weak the kitten is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CL6HsCASew

(only his Empored Q does over 2,4k Dmg with 1k ad)

28 Comments

Veltox2 votes

Nah boy Vayne does the same thing. Until they nerf that cancererous tumble damage i vote for assassins to stay the same.

Lord Desert1 votes

The Abuse from Vayne is insane right now, just ban her till riot finally adresses this issue

Targon2 votes

From all of the champions in the assassin rework - Rengar feels the worst to play against in my opinion. I don't think the assassin rework fixed any of his core problems.

1 800 Top Lane1 votes

You think?

Lord Desert1 votes

well its just my thoughts, so yeah he may be not That strong, who knows? Maybe he could use some buffs? xDDD

1 800 Top Lane1 votes

Was sarcasm lol, that dude def needs a nerf, no reason in hell that his q coming out of r 100% crits.

Lord Desert1 votes

dude that was sarcasm too xDDD Rengo needs some serious nerfs right now xDDD

Chamuel851 votes

Yeah, he can still render on your screen and you're dead pretty fast.

dominusx1 votes

am i the only one that thinks new rengar is pure garbage and not even fun to play? lol. and i got like 300k on him

Lord Desert1 votes

Did you watch the video or played him top vs a melee? if not then try it and you will see!

dominusx1 votes

i'm not gonna watch a challenger stomp a bunch of autists to see if a champ is strong or not.

Lord Desert1 votes

well if all of the guys in highelo say that hes strong, to strong, and my assumtions/calculations show the same thing, while i have played vs some rengars before, i can tell you: he is STRONG.

And yes if a challenger beats some normal guys its not that great, but look at HOW he beat them... he did nothing crazy or only on challenger level, he just pressed R at random times, jumped to a target and used his Q, and they were dead.

Do you want a compressed list of his good points?

dominusx1 votes

he does the same with jungle lux . i can do the exact same vs the exact same players. the only thing they did to rengar is give him a clunky q and a retarded W. He is feast or famine now nothing more without kills he is even more useless than before. all ik every game i played against rengar apart from a 3v3 game he lost hard as fuck. And i think diamond 3 players are good enough to use rengar. and all the game i've played with him unless i got the 30% bonus i felt useless.

Lord Desert1 votes

I get what you say, but riot tried to make them "less snowbally","make counterplay possible". I dont think rengar fits any of them, rather the oppsite.

Switching from a Empored AA to an Abitlity with 2 phases might indeed feel a bit more clunky, but have you seen the scalings?! + have you seen his possible AD values!? that is just nuts! you dont even need the empored Q, a Ult Crit+ Q is enough to make squishys less then half life, while the empowered Q just delets them... and those are technicly AA resets too.

Just so you know, i think that his empowered W is broken/unheatly as hell. and should be removed ASAP. you can cleanse WW Ult, MalzUlt etc. and all on a basic ability for free, for 1,5 SECONDS!!!!!! Oh and did i mentioned Edge of Night? with ANOTHER spellshield?!

I dont care what rank you or me or others are, i only value facts. And the fact that if he gets fed he becomes unstoppable, un counterable after he gets ~3 of his stacks is not so good. And even rengar mains are still in the learing phase so im rather trusting in my numbers then personal opinions

dominusx1 votes

yah w is retarded. it's the only reason i even tried playing him in the 1st place. if his w wasnt like this i wouldnt even try him. i love the Immunity when lee players try to kick me hehehehehheheeh other than that i hate this rework i'd pref season 5 rengar with lower scalings rather this new shit.

Lord Desert1 votes

personly i think the idea was not that bad, hunting 5 enemys, no more ar/Mr out of nothing etc., but his numbers are way to high and the Empowered W needs to be changed. So i think he still needs some work

Brownie Elfie1 votes

He's really good actually. His ult lasts really long, gives him a guaranteed crit, and he only needs 4 fero stacks. Lots of threads are made complaining about his absurd damage output.

dominusx1 votes

dunno played him. He only feels god if he gets fed. if he doesnt get full stacks from his passive is garbage and clunky.

bill841 votes

I have seen some rengars just running builds like item 3111 item 3147 item 3142 item 3742 item 3065 item 3143 just because they can assassinate people effectively with only 2 damage items.

Brush Patrol1 votes

You do realize these vids are nightblue smurfing right? He's a challenger playing against golds and plats, you could use any of his videos to say "this champ is broken xd".

I do think Rengar is overtuned but use something better than nightblue lel.

Lord Desert1 votes

I know nightblue isnt the best example to show, but his videos are atleast short, and he often tries the extreme, Which is very important because those extremes should be handelt as the normal case, if you want to balance something. Redmercy and phylol did some for rengar too, if i remember correctly.

The main thing those videos should show is rengars 1 shot potential, basicly that he is not in a good state right now :/

WoonStruck1 votes

He plays Rengar and Kha at high MMRs (Diamond 1+) quite a bit.

Watch his streams.

He pretty much only plays assassins at high MMR. And Lee.

GuardinGates1 votes

Needs little tweaks?! HE'S BROKEN! 30% extra AD is crazy! A potato could play him atm!

Lord Desert1 votes

Dude its up to 42% if he kills kha :D

Oglaf1 votes

Change the 30% bonus AD to 20-30 flat AD.

30% allows him to reach retarded levels of AD.

Lord Desert1 votes

42% if he kills kha, but yeah those numbers are way to high, i think the max amount of ad a rengar can get is 1,7k AD, which should be increased, rengo so weak right now ;DDD

Oglaf1 votes

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42% if he kills kha, but yeah those numbers are way to high, i think the max amount of ad a rengar can get is 1,7k AD, which should be increased, rengo so weak right now ;DDD

Aye, he is. I think we need to give him a uber-heal and Olaf ultimate on his Battleroar, too!

Lord Desert1 votes

Yeah maybe a 90% slow for 1,75s on his basic e, so he can ether delete 3 others with the Emp. Q or become olaf with his Emp. W, but still catch up to you! oh and lets give him a +50% ms boost after he uses an empowered Ability!

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