I feel like a majority of AP champions are completely dicked over. ( Im an adc main so not biased)

Rivuo··2 votes·653 views

I hate fizz. I really do and i wish riot deleted him

BUT

i watched my 11-10 fizz empty a whole combo on a FULL armor rammas. Im talking straight full armor absolutely No MR rammas, Lose about 15-20% of his total health.

Now im not saying rammas isnt a tank but when the dude has absolutely no MR ( he had 67? when i clicked on him ) take a whole fizz combo, somethings not right.

I remember i played syndra one time and i was completely fed out my ass. I was like 6-0 great cs at about 20 minutes? Emptied a whole combo on a volibear who had cinderhulk + armor only. Dude was 0-4. Took like 25%-30% of his health

Listen. I think Rylais is 100% bullshit. Too strong of an item. I think Zhonyas is too cost efficient. i Think abyssal scepter makes no fuckin sense.

BUT HEAR ME OUT. I think some shit needs to be changed.

Why do you say i ask? Because im a fuckin adc main. When the enemy rammas builds 500 armor despite us having a fed AP laners but is MORE tanky to the AP champs than the AD champs. It fuckin sucks you know?

It really fuckin sucks that i cant build a maw of malmoritus because i need lifesteal to kill rammas. But rammas is still koing me from my own autos after i get bloodthirster

Then i have to get lord dom to ACTUALLY do damage.

Then i can THINK of getting a maw

This thread isnt a ''rammas is op'' thread. Its a ''Why can champs build armor but be tanky to AP champs'' Thread...

thanks for your time

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ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

They likely had a ton of health, which is the natural counter to AP burst. (Also in your syndra example, you probably proced his passive which gave him more health)

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

tanks don't need MR to stop magic, this isn't anything new. Rammus can just stack armor and press W btw

also what was fizz's build because you don't build to fight rammus the way you build to fight say MF or vayne

Rivuo1 votes

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tanks don't need MR to stop magic, this isn't anything new. Rammus can just stack armor and press W btw

also what was fizz's build because you don't build to fight rammus the way you build to fight say MF or vayne

Yeah you're right. I know its been like that but it seems really bad now ya know?

I just dont think its right considering champs like zac/rammas/malphite can completely negate AP damage while making it so the enemy adc is forced to buy 4 items before they can THINK of autoing them

Direwoods1 votes

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Yeah you're right. I know its been like that but it seems really bad now ya know?

I just dont think its right considering champs like zac/rammas/malphite can completely negate AP damage while making it so the enemy adc is forced to buy 4 items before they can THINK of autoing them

the thing is that ap champs only tend to have a combo of some kind, and all their ap goes into that combo, so when the combos done and they have to wait a bit of time, their ap is mostly useless on most of the ap champs, for example, when does aniva actually do anything when shes out of mana. So full hp tank can take the blow and still stay healthy while the ap champ has to focus on squishy targets, honestly tanks should only be fought by other tanks, tank shreders like irelia, or by multiple people, example adc and sup, or jungle and top/mid.

ReshiKillim1 votes

Rammus can press W for up 120 MR, 120 Armor, and a mini-thornmail.

And if a Rammus really wanted to screw you over, he could have enough tankiness that black cleaver and Lord dominik's regards wouldn't be enough for a non-Vayne ADC to kill him.

Dynikus1 votes

Did fizz or you while playing syndra have magic pen?

Poske1 votes

Rammus w grants mr. You probably left clicked him before stat change

Alutrosity1 votes

When dealing with tanks as a mage, you must first understand that their hp is what allows them to soak up all that damage, then start building against it. Say you dealt 1500damage with a Veigar ultimate, and Volibear has 4000hp which is well within the realm of possibility for a champion like him, he will still have 2500hp left. What you want to do is buy Liandry's Torment as it is the bane of all tanks, as it does burn damage based on the targets current health and is doubled if the tank is getting crowd controlled, so get this item on any mage who can dish out sustained damage, has damage over time spells as this will proc the burn multiple times, and solid crowd control abilities. This will make the tank you're facing infinitely more manageable to deal with.

Zarkkast1 votes

It's a "Rammas", he just needs to press W and he gains 120 MR.

Caítlyn1 votes

Also bullshit items like item 3155 exist

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