Promos Should be a secret to everyone but the person in promos.

GigglesO·Jan 23, 2015·42 votes·3,274 views

I just had some one say "don't let our team win we have someone in promos".

30 Comments

SilverthaneJan 23, 20152 votes

the gatekeeping is strong. also never say youre duo...

ComeOnAndSlamJamJan 23, 20152 votes

People will loudly let you know when they're in promos. They get 10x more anus extended during promos and yell over every mistake.

FHMarshyJan 23, 20151 votes

Damn taht is really unfortunate :( report that b****

NavaiJan 23, 20151 votes

Could someone in here let me know what do they base your provisional matches off of?

KnalxzJan 23, 20151 votes

Let me point you to this thread of mine.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/WdAGXneA-shouldnt-people-in-their-promosprovisionals-be-paired-with-others-in-them-too?comment=0003

BeersteinJan 23, 20151 votes

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I just had some one say "don't let our team win we have someone in promos".

How dare he make a joke? He should be lynched.

RomanceJan 23, 20153 votes

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How dare he make a joke? He should be lynched.

You can't tell if he's serious or not, there are a lot of people who actually do intentionally feed to screw over people in their promos. It happened to me in my promotional from Plat 1 to Diamond 5. I got the same guy in 3 games and each game he intentionally fed and his reasoning was "Because if I can't get diamond this season neither can you." Needless to say, that one experience discouraged me for playing ranked and because of it I quit trying and let myself fall back into plat 3.

Admittedly because of that, I had a smurf I sat at low gold 5 for the sole purpose of gatekeeping. Yes, I actually ground my smurf I hadn't touched in a year from s4 into g5 just do gatekeep people. (Gatekeeping is the act of doing anything in your power to screw over people in promos. If they were on my team, I was never serious, like I wouldn't 0-10 levels of intentionally feed because I'm not that much of a douchebag, but I wasn't like tryharding. Likewise, if the promo player was on the enemy team, I was a complete tryhard. In the event two people were in promos, one on each side, I'd act based on who'd be affected more. In the RARE case they were similar progress, I would tryhard.)

The ability for you to see someone in their promotional matches is absolute cancer, infact the new league system in itself in cancer, I never liked it since it came out. It favors progression while doing quite a lot to hinder falling. Point being you go up a division, you're given a 3 game or so grace before demoted and in many cases, one win will put you back into the promotional series. I very much miss the "I hit 1500, I'm in gold!" losing one game "Damn it, now I'm not gold anymore."

Problem is, Riot wants to validate people, that was their whole reason. "We want you to feel like you accomplished something." and often times, I'm not even looking at my Leagues and seeing "I'm higher than X people in my league!" more often than not I'm lolkinging myself to see where I rank over all. I feel more satisfied seeing I'm in the top 100,000 usually than seeing "Oh, I'm higher than the other 20 people in my division, neat!" Which is how the old system worked. You had an actual number and could look your ELO up on the site.

TaylorGaylorJan 23, 201512 votes

What in the world! Why would do that to people? WTF is wrong with people like you?

RomanceJan 23, 20154 votes

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What in the world! Why would do that to people? WTF is wrong with people like you?

I'm very analytical of my actions and here are what I believe are the reasons, these are just mine though, others act differently. Italics are my explanations.

It's happened to me.

I do not claim perfection as a person. I am very very very petty when I want to be or when I feel wronged. I'm the kind of guy that is someone is intentionally feeding, I'll ask them to stop and if they insist on being a child with responses like "I'll just afk hurrrr" then I'll respond with "Good, act like that, fall back to bronze where your attitude originates from." So naturally if I get gatekept or trolled, I am not above doing it to other people. Although like I said, my sense of trolling is I just quit playing seriously. I don't go out and go "lol I'm gonna 0-10 feed this game!" instead I just kinda quit talking to my team and do my thing. Kinda like "I could go bot and take dragon if it works, although I'm gonna gank top and try to push it to tower."

Because I'm a douchebag at heart. I admitted to being petty. Although on games I'm just naturally a douchebag. There's no lying about it, I have an extremely selfish playstyle and this is clearly exhibited in my jungling. My friends who duo with me know to not be ADC or Mid lane and expect their respective buffs, likewise I have a tendency to take every kill possible and usually I carry with it. The only exception to this rule is a real life friend of mine I went to school with who performs exceptionally well as ADC and I know it so I'll actually go out of my way to give him early reds and kills since I know he doesn't get 12-1 fed then try to solo the enemy team like 90% of my ADC randoms. I have more faith in my ability to carry than some randoms. I understand they feel the same way but I'm the one in control. Shockingly, one friend said it made him a better player since he does not rely on blue buff anymore and to him it's a buff, not a necessity. Likewise when I gank, I push to tower. If my laner is gone, I push to tower. This works because the enemy top is more often than not denied CS and XP, and if the enemy jungler comes to soak it, his jungle is less farmed therefore less effective. On a side note, those top laners without teleport who are in the base that spam V ping me because I'm soaking CS can go to hell. It's either I get the CS which is a team advantage, or none of us get it and the enemy team comes out ahead. You're in the fking base, you won't get the cannon minion that's at 10 hp because you're fking 12000 distance from it. All laners do this and it pisses me off.
Bad day. This one will get me tons of flak. If I'm having a really bad day, I'll play on a smurf and smash people around to boost my mood. Honestly I feel this is more productive to venting than losing a game and being "FUCK YOU NOOB SERIOUSLY JUST KILL YOURSELF YOU'RE WORTHLESS AND NOT EVEN YOUR PARENTS LOVE YOU!" I'm a very emotional and vocal person. This helps to prevent this. It's still a cancerous way to cope with it, but it's less cancerous than the alternative. I suck at gambling so I'm not going to risk my account on me somehow maintaining self control when my team is intentionally trolling me or throws the game because I told them to NOT facecheck Baron and they do the exact opposite.

VertaniumJan 23, 201512 votes

After reading, These are not valid points. I admire your honesty, but seriously, you are the cancerous stereotype that forces people away from the game. If you cannot control your emotions, maybe you shouldnt control a champion, Id rather have someone scream at me in chat for a dumb play than have someone Intentionally feeding or smurfing, ruining the game of 9 other people.

AuryielJan 23, 20156 votes

Honestly, this was just all kinds of pathetic

DaaaaangJan 23, 20151 votes

Thanks for this - I feel the same as you on some of it.. I try to start every game on the right foot too. I think what you should do though, is when you're pissed off from a troll team, or you had a bad day or whatever, just don't play league. If you're absolutely intent on playing league, play something that doesn't matter.. like ARAM or norms. When I'm pissed AF and I need a break, but I still feel like playing league I just play a couple ARAMs and mute my team so I don't go off on them. If you really feel the need to continuously run into the turret, play bots. You ruining the experience for 9 other people because you feel bad for yourself in an online game, or a 12 year old not following your orders? Good luck in the real world sport.

OyddAWqJ5rJan 24, 20153 votes

And that, boys and girls, is where toxic players come from :)

balbraakselJan 23, 20151 votes

Riot ban him please.

RebonackJan 24, 20154 votes

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You can't tell if he's serious or not, there are a lot of people who actually do intentionally feed to screw over people in their promos. It happened to me in my promotional from Plat 1 to Diamond 5. I got the same guy in 3 games and each game he intentionally fed and his reasoning was "Because if I can't get diamond this season neither can you." Needless to say, that one experience discouraged me for playing ranked and because of it I quit trying and let myself fall back into plat 3.

Admittedly because of that, I had a smurf I sat at low gold 5 for the sole purpose of gatekeeping. Yes, I actually ground my smurf I hadn't touched in a year from s4 into g5 just do gatekeep people. (Gatekeeping is the act of doing anything in your power to screw over people in promos. If they were on my team, I was never serious, like I wouldn't 0-10 levels of intentionally feed because I'm not that much of a douchebag, but I wasn't like tryharding. Likewise, if the promo player was on the enemy team, I was a complete tryhard. In the event two people were in promos, one on each side, I'd act based on who'd be affected more. In the RARE case they were similar progress, I would tryhard.)

The ability for you to see someone in their promotional matches is absolute cancer, infact the new league system in itself in cancer, I never liked it since it came out. It favors progression while doing quite a lot to hinder falling. Point being you go up a division, you're given a 3 game or so grace before demoted and in many cases, one win will put you back into the promotional series. I very much miss the "I hit 1500, I'm in gold!" losing one game "Damn it, now I'm not gold anymore."

Problem is, Riot wants to validate people, that was their whole reason. "We want you to feel like you accomplished something." and often times, I'm not even looking at my Leagues and seeing "I'm higher than X people in my league!" more often than not I'm lolkinging myself to see where I rank over all. I feel more satisfied seeing I'm in the top 100,000 usually than seeing "Oh, I'm higher than the other 20 people in my division, neat!" Which is how the old system worked. You had an actual number and could look your ELO up on the site.

It is my honest hope that Riot IP bans you.

StephenizgodJan 24, 20153 votes

Uuuuuhhhh no people like you are cancer... Who the fck sees someone in their promos and is like "Oh hell naw" then screws them over... Wth is your deal? Do you know how many times i failed my promos into Gold because a couple of trolls on my team decided they didnt feel like trying? around 5 times... I worked my way up to my promos multiple times only to fail because of people like you deciding they didnt want me progressing...

Can we get this guy perma-banned? he just admitted to intentionally losing so other people couldnt be promoted -_-

RomanceJan 24, 20151 votes

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Uuuuuhhhh no people like you are cancer... Who the fck sees someone in their promos and is like "Oh hell naw" then screws them over... Wth is your deal? Do you know how many times i failed my promos into Gold because a couple of trolls on my team decided they didnt feel like trying? around 5 times... I worked my way up to my promos multiple times only to fail because of people like you deciding they didnt want me progressing...

Can we get this guy perma-banned? he just admitted to intentionally losing so other people couldnt be promoted -_-

I just went 0-3 and failed my Plat promos because of people like this. I can get over it.

And you people are so poor with reading comprehension, lemme explain for ya:

I DO NOT INTENTIONALLY LOSE THE GAME. THERE IS A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT MAKING IT LIFE OR DEATH AND INTENTIONALLY TROLLING A GAME.

I SHOULD ALSO ELABORATE: MY CASUAL PLAYING FAR EXCEEDS WHAT MY TEAMMATES ARE CAPABLE OF EVEN ON MY MAIN.

IF I WAS INTENTIONALLY GOING 0-10 I WOULD FOR SURE SAY BAN ME. BUT I'M NOT, USUALLY I'M GOING 7-3 OR SIMILAR SCORES, BETTER THAN MOST OF MY TEAM. I JUST DO NOT GO WARLORD STATUS AND FORCE DRAG MY TEAM.

CARRYING PLAYERS WHO DON'T DESERVE THE VICTORY IS FAR WORSE TO ME. I FEEL IT AKIN TO BOOSTING WHICH I AM FIRMLY AGAINST.

I PLAY LIKE THE ELO I'M IN, I DO NOT PLAY LIKE A BRONZIE AND TURBO FEED IN RANKED GAMES INTENTIONALLY.

CAN YOU PEOPLE READ YET?

StephenizgodJan 24, 20152 votes

Maybe you cant read the part where you said and i quote "Admittedly because of that, I had a smurf I sat at low gold 5 for the sole purpose of gatekeeping. Yes, I actually ground my smurf I hadn't touched in a year from s4 into g5 just do gatekeep people."

If you dont want people to hate on you do not post evidence of you being an asshole on purpose with the intentions of making sure people didnt win their Promos. You probably should have just not commented that part at all because no matter what you say in defense the whole point is you are trying to not let people be promoted. Having a smurf and not trying your hardest is one thing, but you specifically said you were "Gatekeeping"...

So you can understand me better ill just simplify this for you: Gatekeeping = being an asshole.

RomanceJan 24, 20151 votes

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Maybe you cant read the part where you said and i quote "Admittedly because of that, I had a smurf I sat at low gold 5 for the sole purpose of gatekeeping. Yes, I actually ground my smurf I hadn't touched in a year from s4 into g5 just do gatekeep people."

If you dont want people to hate on you do not post evidence of you being an asshole on purpose with the intentions of making sure people didnt win their Promos. You probably should have just not commented that part at all because no matter what you say in defense the whole point is you are trying to not let people be promoted. Having a smurf and not trying your hardest is one thing, but you specifically said you were "Gatekeeping"...

So you can understand me better ill just simplify this for you: Gatekeeping = being an asshole.

Which isn't permabannable so you idiots preaching for it should be quiet.

No CrumbsJan 24, 20151 votes

You straight up said that someone trolled you for three placement games saying "If I can't get diamond neither can you" Then went on to explain that because this happened to you, you went on your smurf and gate kept for other people in gold to make them lose promos.

Brenticus12Jan 23, 20159 votes

Shit like this does happen. I was in a match and some guy said he was in his last promos.

2nd pick said "Okay I troll" and proceeded to pick Teemo with tele/revive.

He couldn't dodge cause it was his last promos so I had to offer to dodge..

Black Star 1299Jan 24, 20153 votes

Real man here.

Someone give him a cookie. item 2054

Social Justice 1Jan 23, 20154 votes

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How dare he make a joke? He should be lynched.

Have you actually never heard of gatekeeping or are you just trying to hide your shitty opinions behind "muh free speech"

warpenguin555Jan 23, 20151 votes

I just showed this to my brother who doesnt play league and he even agrees with this

maybe allow people on your friends list to see it but thats it

RomanceJan 24, 20151 votes

And thus my point was proven. I explained my actions and I hate to tell you this, but it happens. You may as well start banning all the pros who level smurfs because they ruin the experience for people actually stuck in silver in their climb to challenger.

I flat out outlined how the system can and has been exploited.

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After reading, These are not valid points. I admire your honesty, but seriously, you are the cancerous stereotype that forces people away from the game. If you cannot control your emotions, maybe you shouldnt control a champion, Id rather have someone scream at me in chat for a dumb play than have someone Intentionally feeding or smurfing, ruining the game of 9 other people.

I like how I explicitly outlined I don't intentionally feed and I guess I should have pointed this out: Even on my main, my non serious gameplay exceeds that of at least 2 others on my team.

StanmangundyJan 24, 20151 votes

[http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/riot-official/yHbhEskR-dev-blog-the-riot-api?comment=005a0000]

StanmangundyJan 24, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Sargonas,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=yHbhEskR,comment-id=005a0000,timestamp=2015-01-09T17:15:55.266+0000)

That's actually some valid feedback worth considering. In some new changes coming down the pipeline, we have an opportunity to make a lot of changes around these things if we want to, since we'll already be tinkering under the hood in those areas. It's probably worth having the discussion on the merits of masking Promo status and weighing the pros and cons.

StanmangundyJan 24, 20151 votes

bump

TwoDJan 24, 20151 votes

only if Riot was badass enough to have random GM spectators for ranked matches, that would give out loss-forgiven to unfair matches and banhammer salty players like this.

StanmangundyJan 24, 20151 votes

Nothing to be salty about but i had a troll on my 5th game of promos to gold on last day of the season cuz he saw I was in promos on a 3rd party site and just ran down mid from end of loading screen all game feeding. It does suck and its sad they blocked seeing duos over this, I would think it's pretty obvious this could be abused by people trolling yet somehow knowing if some duos is wrong. Like duo or not if you suck I'm gonna tell u, i could care less if ur duoing and sicne they closed the ELO gao for duo's its not like some plat 5 is brining his bronze 1 buddy into ranked.