Can we be allowed to play junglers who aren't named Lee Sin again?

Naalith·2/16/2020, 11:47:54 PM·27 votes·10,856 views

Lee Sin (and diver assassin skirmisher tanks like him) have crowded out jungle picks for way too long. Ever since the shit ass scuttle changes of 2018 it has felt like playing any jungler besides him is equivalent to hard griefing your team. The only other junglers who have been viable in this time period are people like Nunu, who is so tanky he can survive being slapped by Lee Sin. My passion for this game is basically dead at this point, there's no point in even trying to play League when Riot balances exclusively around pro play and allows shit like Lee Sin to terrorize solo queue for years and years.

This game has over 145 champions. At any given time there's like 2 or 3 that are so nuts they crowd out nearly every other champion in their role. It's hard to keep passion for this game when the variety of characters is so garbage because of a few OP picks that Riot lets slide by because they aren't seen on the pro stage.

47 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer2/16/2020, 11:55:28 PM7 votes

Stop blindly following the crowd and don't pick a champ that loses more than he wins: https://u.gg/lol/tier-list?role=jungle

PhearBunny2/17/2020, 3:29:09 PM4 votes

Leesins winrate isnt an accurate depiction of how strong he is. Similar to how Akalis winrate isnt an accurate depiction of how strong she is.

Leesin is a skill expression champion that sees ALOT of play from autofillers, stream viewers, and new junglers in general. Plummeting his win rate. Leesin is tied as the best solo que jungler in the game, he and Elise.

huhndog2/17/2020, 10:28:33 PM2 votes

what are you talking about? There have been multiple better picks since the scuttle. Heck rn elise, ekko, and rek sai are better picks

Rαy2/17/2020, 7:49:49 PM1 votes

Banning him every. Single. Game.

PhearBunny2/17/2020, 1:04:34 PM1 votes

Leesin OR Elise* Are the only junglers that can compensate for their laners early game incompetency(They are mobile enough for failed ganks to not matter, and they are strong enough in the early game to recover from unfortunate circumstances). Whereas if youre gonna play other junglers, you kind of have to duo que with someone that you know for a fact isnt going to let you down. Because you dont have the mobility or the early game power to recover from failed ganks, counter jungle collapses, or various other unfortunate circumstances.

RaQqa2/17/2020, 10:57:37 PM1 votes

Idk Somehow I see Rengar Khazix Elise in jungle and I don't think they are weak. I think, right now the true problem of lee sin, is conqueror. His passive giving him as, sustain from W + conq giving him an ultimate combination of having burst and also being tanky in one. Nerf his passive hard, so people will switch to electrocute again, and lee will be dogshit in mid/late game again.

kyoyaoaaa2/18/2020, 9:02:03 AM1 votes

This dog shit damage fiesta better stop after they release the mobile League. Damage in the mobile app and nobody will care. Hopefully they fucking fix the damage in the actual moba after the fucks who ff15 600 times in one day go to mobile.

Daddy Ants2/18/2020, 10:38:00 AM1 votes

Can we be allowed to play bot laners who aren't Aphelios MissFortune Senna?

SiG DxD2/18/2020, 11:47:34 AM1 votes

yeah, lee sin is absurd since last worlds when they buffed him few times

now he overshadows 90% of junglers