Hey Riot, would you mind combining the two %Pen masteries into one-

Rebonack··2 votes·327 views

-hybrid %Pen mastery and having some other option available at that tier?

Because at the moment it doesn't seem like it's providing a very compelling choice to the vast majority of the game's cast.

If not, then why? What was the design goal in splitting the hybrid %pen mastery from last season?

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Dominick Destine3 votes

It was intentionally NOT combined. That's why the flat-penetration is DualPen.

Flyer Beast1 votes

Honestly, I hate how they combined AD into AP masteries and Lifesteal into Spellvamp so that you cant really choose between an AD mastery set or an AP Mastery Set. Deathfire Touch and Thunderlords Decree have both ratios so they don't favor one way either. I'd like it if Riot kept the armor pen and magic pen the same, and changed it so that It was AP+ Spellvamp or AD+Lifesteal, NOT AP+AD or Lifesteal+Spellvamp Not a very big fan of the ferocity tree at its current state, as no champions are best hybrid and only few can be built that way.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Honestly, I hate how they combined AD into AP masteries and Lifesteal into Spellvamp so that you cant really choose between an AD mastery set or an AP Mastery Set. Deathfire Touch and Thunderlords Decree have both ratios so they don't favor one way either. I'd like it if Riot kept the armor pen and magic pen the same, and changed it so that It was AP+ Spellvamp or AD+Lifesteal, NOT AP+AD or Lifesteal+Spellvamp Not a very big fan of the ferocity tree at its current state, as no champions are best hybrid and only few can be built that way.

there are ad champs who find spellvamp useful, you know.

Flyer Beast1 votes

Yeah that's true, but in the current ferocity tree you choose between AD or Spellvamp, so my suggestion doesn't exactly effect those AD Spellvamp champions negatively.

Rebonack2 votes

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Yeah that's true, but in the current ferocity tree you choose between AD or Spellvamp, so my suggestion doesn't exactly effect those AD Spellvamp champions negatively.

But AD/Lifesteal vs AP/Spellvamp isn't a choice.

At all.

You just pick the one you scale better with. Having AP/AD vs Lifesteal/Spellvamp means you have to choose between better sustain and better damage, which is an actual meaningful choice.

Flyer Beast1 votes

My point is this way you can't get better damage and better sustain in one pick you have to choose, yes its a meaningful decision and also a lose lose one, because you cant get everything you would want. I'm just not used to that way of stuff yet.

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