The Maximum Stats Possible with items alone

The Ender Cobra··23 votes·2,186 views

Now before you look at the builds, i considered and left out a lot of things which i will list

-All tested and calculated as if champs had 0 mana, movement speed, attack speed, mana regen, attack damage, and so forth

-no lifelines or actives. You could be walking down lane, be in the jungle, or under fountain and these would be the same (but not in combat)

-no infinite stats (veigar, thresh, sion, etc)

-weird thing for lifesteal, omnivamp on hextech gunblade, or things like it (death's dance, elixir of wrath) don't count as "life steal" so in game it says 56% lifesteal

-also 3 item 3074 item 2140 means 3 ravenous hydras and one elixir of wrath

I believe that covers all of it.

MANA 6item 3040 or 6item 3043 = 6000

AP WITH MANA item 3040 4item 3089 item 3041 item 2139 = 1067.85 (less than AP without mana because as i said calculated as if champs have 0 mana

AP WITHOUT MANA 5item 3089 item 3041 item 2139 = 1073.25

ATTACK DAMAGE 6item 3072 item 2140 =480 or 6item 3812 item 2140 =480 or 6item 3147 item 2140 =480 or 6item 3074 item 2140 =480 LIFE STEAL item 3072 item 3812 item 3146 3 item 3074 item 2140 = 101%

ATTACK SPEED 6 item 3115 = +300% attack speed (total 400% attack speed)

ARMOR 6 item 3075 = 600

MAGIC RESIST 6 item 3102 = 420 (LOL)

ARMOR PENETRATION item 3033 item 3142 item 3147 3 item 3156 = 60 + 45%

MAGIC PENETRATION item 3151 item 3001 item 3135 3 item 3020 = 85 + 35%

HEALTH item 1413 5 item 3083 item 2138 = 5405

HEALTH REGEN item 3065 5 item 3083 = 1200% + 25% total

Mana Regen 6 item 3222

MOVEMENT SPEED item 3117 5 item 3285 = 115 + 50% base movement speed

I'm pretty sure that's it, if i missed anything, sue me. The only reason i did this is because no one else would and i was really bored. Also I reposted this with a picture because i thought that would make people notice it. The other one, people just glossed over.

49 Comments

Zero Skill Tank15 votes

Sorcs stack. My whole life was a lie.

The Ender Cobra1 votes

The movement speed doesn't though. I tested all of these in a custom game. (I was using sion, my friend was using nasus)

Dr Poro2 votes

Does that make you a Sion tist?

Dr Poro2 votes

Bronze thoughts is the best xD

Zarkkast3 votes

Could this be the new meta?

Shadòw1 votes

yes because the pen part is not Unique

3ofGot40ve10 votes
The Ender Cobra2 votes

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Papa Slothy5 votes

time to try 101% lifesteal janna

CarbRundum2 votes

op rito plz nerf

3ofGot40ve2 votes

I heard it only works in ranked.

kDrakari4 votes

And thus we see why bonus AD ratios can be ludicrously high but not inherently broken.

The Ender Cobra1 votes

True, to be honest when I went to test them I thought it would be higher.

Eedat3 votes

you forgot item 3001 in magic pen

The Ender Cobra3 votes

Actually, you are correct, let me fix that. Thank you for catching that, as a reward http://ihasabucket.com/images/walrus_bucket.jpg you get a bucket

The Ender Cobra1 votes

However abyssal depends on enemies being nearby so you be the judge

SwiftKitten883 votes

i think we need to consider the highest build possible that doesn't use repeated items with "unique" passives

it would be much more fun to see "legit" builds

for example for movement speed item 3020 item 3100 item 1410 item 3285 item 3041 item 3504

i mean i dont know a jungler that would USE ardent censor

and soulstealer isn't really that great outside of bot games or if your a high level smurf

but all the items give movement speed, thier all "AP" and there are no duplicates

Anu3isII2 votes

The build looks like An AP Sona build that decided to take Smite instead of Ignite, and bought the upgrade to escape of the Sightstone xD.

CeexSett2 votes

Nidalee can reliably build all of those items. The Censer and Mejais are kinda troll, but it works.

The Ender Cobra1 votes

I guess you're right but as I said, the goal was to just get the most of one stat possible.

Mad King Hades2 votes

1200% health regen? That is like 6000 health per second, right? That means they need to burst you down in 1 sec to kill someone :D.

The Ender Cobra4 votes

that's saying you're regaining 50 health a second

Spoofghoul3 votes

depends on champion

sion for example

also dont forget the 100% hp regen a champios has naturally so its actually 1300% you can beef this up by hp regen runes yellows and quints becaus the rest are ineffecitve so that 33 hp/5 all this you can increase by the runic armor and visage up to + 33%

that means a sion with 23,78 base regen can get (33 + 13 x23,78) x 1,33 = 455,0462 hp regen

then there is still ocean drakes and warmogs passive which would make you regen much more lol

but heimer can get more for example with 40,755 regen can get 748,55 hp regen its kind of silly but funny to do

MisterShameless2 votes

But this is from items alone, if you look at mana, he mentions that the champion would have 0 mana since its not included.

The Ender Cobra2 votes

This guy is right

Mad King Hades1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ender Cobra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Otnr0Eik,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-06-16T16:59:54.325+0000)

that's saying you're regaining 50 health a second

Wrong, that is saying you have a health regen of 5 per second. If there is no health regen than it is useless, but with so many wartmogs you should be a god.

MisterShameless2 votes

1item 3065 5item 3083 = 1200% + (50%x6) = 1500%

FourVsFive2 votes

Why not add wits end to magic pen?

The Ender Cobra1 votes

As i said in the beginning, that has to stack "no lifelines or actives. You could be walking down lane, be in the jungle, or under fountain and these would be the same (but not in combat)"

Djkeyblade2 votes

would item 3742 help movement speed at all?

The Ender Cobra1 votes

it would but, not as much as luden's and mobility boots would

Rian2 votes

you missed ehp for armor: 6*item 3143 = 10800 (+item 2138 = 12600)

and mr: 6*item 3065 = 9900 (+item 2138 = 11550)


Fun fact: Malphite at max lv. + 6*item 3143 + item 2138 = 36230 ehp

Jinx + 2*item 3072 + item 3508 + item 3031 +2*item 3046 = 1682 dps

== 21,5 sec ttk

yes i'm bored

The Ender Cobra1 votes

I'm not going for highest unkillability, I'm going for most armor or magic resist.

Rian2 votes

item 3070

Eternal Kage2 votes

Pretty neat. But ghostblade and drakthurr armor pen is unique. The way magic pen/reduction is calculated combining abysal with void lowers abysal's passive to like 15(Didn't do the math) other than that I found it interesting.

The Ender Cobra1 votes

That's why there is only one ghostblade and drakthurr. Well the magic pen thing was weird, and as I said to the person whom now has a bucket abyssal depends on their being enemies nearby, and it doesn't really even give magic penetration.

OyddAWqJ5r2 votes

Just so you know, Abyssal is MR reduction not penetration.

The difference is that reduction is applied before penetration--meaning it doesn't benefit as much from % pen as flat pen does.

The Ender Cobra1 votes

Yeah that's pretty much what I was saying

DiveAlive2 votes

nice list but What about item 3027 or item 3165 in the ap+ mana build?

The Ender Cobra1 votes

I checked, and they don't give enough mana to affect the passive on seraph's embrace more than a rabadon's give straight AP

DiveAlive1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ender Cobra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Otnr0Eik,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2016-06-17T13:23:46.618+0000)

I checked, and they don't give enough mana to affect the passive on seraph's embrace more than a rabadon's give straight AP

Interesting, I wish Rito didn't trade so much ap for Cdr on so many other items.

Auz the Ripper2 votes

In the mana build, it's better to replace the extra item 3040 With item 3165s. Each Morello's grants 112 AP with The mana to AP convention passive, whereas each extra Seraph's will only grant 110. Gaining you ~6 more AP in that building

The Ender Cobra1 votes

Wait, I'm not sure I understand your question. There is only one seraph's embrace, and without it you don't get the mana to AP conversion so taking it out would make the whole mana thing useless.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

in the "AP with mana" section, you have 4 seraph's embraces and the build would be mathematically better if you replaced 3 of those seraph's embraces with morellonomicons.

edit: upon review, i must have seen the 4 in front of the seraph's instead of the rabadon's

Angry Monster2 votes

While these numbers are interesting they are not efficient by themselves.

As an example AP does not translate into into strict damage. For real damage you need pen, CDR, and damage effects. Things like hex-tech items and Echos that have AP ratios in them that effect damage.

What would be interesting if someone could come up with numerically the most efficient single spell rotation build.

The Ender Cobra1 votes

Yeah but, I'm just going for the most of a singular stat, not necessarily efficiency.

Dr Poro2 votes

There are only 3 builds in this list that actually work with 0 base stats. With the other ones, you'd be permanently dead. Kappa

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