When the enemy team is Tryndamere, Master Yi, Yasuo, Jhin, and Sion
But you get last pick Rammus https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/614VmsFwoNL._SX355_.jpg
But you get last pick Rammus https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/614VmsFwoNL._SX355_.jpg
Yi is still going to easily kill you with true damage.
But taunting him means he won't kill whoever is going to be killing him at the time, or be able to dodge/heal in the meanwhile.
You dont have to 1v1 everyone, even if you're Rammus.
To be honest, the rest of the team is just going to shred Rammus in half a second. With Sion on the team, he won't be able to get in range for a taunt before he gets stun-locked.
Can't Rammus flank the enemy team with his powerball?
And leave his team with no frontline? Sion will just ult the rest of the team, allowing a multi-champ Yasuo ult and follow-up by the other two champs Rammus didn't taunt.
Assuming top isnt something like a naut or malphite or someone that builds armor.
Because their team 100% wont have a tank top/support.
And leave his team with no frontline?
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To be honest, the rest of the team is just going to shred Rammus in half a second.
Dude, come on. You're not leaving me much room to maneuver here.
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Yi is still going to easily kill you with true damage.
Yasuo too
Not even 2% of Yasuo's damage is true, what drugs are you on?
if yasuo builds armor pen, his ultimate can allow him to almost negate armor but then again, no one does that that I know of
Not even 2% of Yasuo's damage is true, what drugs are you on?
What are those 2 percent true dmg from? I talked about his 50% armor pen, and if he would go last whisper you basically have no armor.
I wouldn't even be able to count the times I've wrecked yi 1v1 as ramus, nor could I even count the times I locked him up in the middle of a team fight without any lube as
. He ain't outlifestealing anything when a ramus taunts him and your team has enough common sense to brutally massacre him.
I wouldn't even be able to count the times I've wrecked yi 1v1 as ramus, nor could I even count the times I locked him up in the middle of a team fight without any lube as
. He ain't outlifestealing anything when a ramus taunts him and your team has enough common sense to brutally massacre him.
https://plays.tv/video/5753e25f46663e53b9/reuploaded-minus-the-laugh?from=user
nope
In this video that you dug up, master yi is 4 levels ahead of rammus and although we cannot see the items, I'm very sure he's fed and has more items ( once again he's 4 levels ahead).
I also play plenty of ramm, have had plenty of ramm vs yi matchups, and can tell that this is the case. An evenly level/fed rammus or even a slightly behind rammus would not be cut to shreds like that.
In this video that you dug up, master yi is 4 levels ahead of rammus and although we cannot see the items, I'm very sure he's fed and has more items ( once again he's 4 levels ahead).
I also play plenty of ramm, have had plenty of ramm vs yi matchups, and can tell that this is the case. An evenly level/fed rammus or even a slightly behind rammus would not be cut to shreds like that.
you can see the items he had jugger enchant and deadmans + a chain and cloth armor.
reaosn why i won the trade was levels + red smite i still had BorK as well. + i had ult up.
rammus losing to yi is a joke unless the rammus gets ahead of the yi or he has support.
yi does not lose to rammus 1v1 in most cases as yi's damage and healing will always outscale rammus defense given we they are = levels with = gold ( unless we are talking crit yi build as that meme isnt great vs tanks)
edit just to math out what he has vs me in that 1v1
i had just about 600~ hp with 10.8k with of gold in items
while rammus did have just under 7k worth of gold items he also had 2.6k HP
ive also played a lot of rammus's people think he is a direct counter to auto attack based champions. what everyone tends to forget is that its actually ADC's.
you know the people who dont....
have a way to bypass early armor ( minus leathality builds )
build early life steal
stack % damages
have a build in fuck your armor steroid.
Hey i'm just saying he wouldn't be cut to shreds as easily like in this video with even gold/levels, which you appear to know.
1v1's don't always go Rammus' way as you've said, even if they're equal in lvl/gold. I'm typically ahead though in those games which is why I've 1v1'd successfully. Tends to happen if the ramm is ganking faster/ got off more successful ganks/counterganks.
When in teamfights with no stragglers (all are present at the time), it's a Rammus' wet dream for any auto attack champ to leap in so long as rammus is in his own team's backline to lock him down. (other champs that come to mind are jax and trynd)
That qss usage was on point in that vid, if the yi is able to time that so fast and no one provides any hard cc directly afterwards, then yeah we're kinda fucked lol. I often times build a
as a failsafe in further helping my AD carries. Supports don't build it often enough nor is the support always a tank. I love the flexibility of it because you can always give it to your friendly top AD if there are duplicates. When I play with my brother who mains trynd, I give it to him quite often :D. Dude will not die lol.
Hey i'm just saying he wouldn't be cut to shreds as easily like in this video with even gold/levels, which you appear to know.
1v1's don't always go Rammus' way as you've said, even if they're equal in lvl/gold. I'm typically ahead though in those games which is why I've 1v1'd successfully. Tends to happen if the ramm is ganking faster/ got off more successful ganks/counterganks.
When in teamfights with no stragglers (all are present at the time), it's a Rammus' wet dream for any auto attack champ to leap in so long as rammus is in his own team's backline to lock him down. (other champs that come to mind are jax and trynd)
That qss usage was on point in that vid, if the yi is able to time that so fast and no one provides any hard cc directly afterwards, then yeah we're kinda fucked lol. I often times build a
as a failsafe in further helping my AD carries. Supports don't build it often enough nor is the support always a tank. I love the flexibility of it because you can always give it to your friendly top AD if there are duplicates. When I play with my brother who mains trynd, I give it to him quite often :D. Dude will not die lol.
i didnt use qss... lul
that that aside i was not arguing teamfights. you just said rammus wreak yi 1v1 which is just straight up not the case a majority of the time.
aye, I dunno why, but I thought I saw it pop for some reason lul
It depends a lot on the build. In the scenerio in the original post the entire team was AD champs, meaning Rammus could easily go Thornmail + Frozen Heart/Randuin's which does a lot more against Master Yi than Dead Man's Plate. Anyway, I am going to defend the OP because it isn't about the 1 v 1 against Yi (although I do think that Rammus beats Yi in a 1v1 when even in gold and levels in the mid game). He was just explaining that the last pick rammus basically won the game for his team. Had he picked Elise or some other jungle option he might have had a more difficult time winning the game.
damn I cant figure out who the champion with the scar on their eye is...

you beat me to it
ew I'd rather beat myself to
thank you very much
Hope i wasnt late
- But is it really ok?
and then they all walk away
You see rammus's new ult? That just means he gets a free tower
did... did you not know it worked on towers before his rework?
It didn't deal double damage to towers before.
honestly, it's still not a great deal. Old trundle Q did more dmg to towers than current rammus ult.
And IK, I play lots of ramm
maaaan don't bring up the beautiful past "sniffle", what have they done to you trundllllle
then they buy black cleaver/lw/sion armor shred and master yi is going with the Rageblade/True damage-Onhit build
And then you realize that Sion reduces your armor by 20%, Yasuo has armor pen on his ult, Yi deals true damage, and Tryndamere doesn't give a crap, he can just ult and beat your rodent hindquarters with no repercussions. And that Sion has 2 ways to knock you out of your powerball, 3 ways to make your W self-slow even worse, and is never going to let you even look at Jhin, so you might as well forget about the one guy who you pose a real threat to.
That is what I thought, that comp would kill rammus so fast it actually wouldn't even be funny.
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And then you realize that Sion reduces your armor by 20%, Yasuo has armor pen on his ult, Yi deals true damage, and Tryndamere doesn't give a crap, he can just ult and beat your rodent hindquarters with no repercussions. And that Sion has 2 ways to knock you out of your powerball, 3 ways to make your W self-slow even worse, and is never going to let you even look at Jhin, so you might as well forget about the one guy who you pose a real threat to.
Jhin actually deals a lot of damage to everything if he uses a critbuild.
I confirmed this when i though my nearly fully tankbuilt jax with ulti would be able to endure a few autos from him with both of us having full build.
The issue is, Jhin will one-shot himself if he attacks Rammus.
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The issue is, Jhin will one-shot himself if he attacks Rammus.
uh...well....
Don't shoot if rammus has his thornmail thing up? .....it's probably the only solution.
:Should we be concerned that they went full AD?
:I'm not worried, how about you mid?
:Just fine... how about you jungle?
:Ok
:See Cait, you worry too much.
why put sion in that comp?
Why Sion though
He wanted a support who deals physical damage, but forgot that Sion's E shreds 20% armor and deals magic damage AND Sion's W deals 14% max health as magic damage.
ONLY COWARDS FEAR DEATH!!!
Also, I don't sleep because REST IS FOR THE LIVING!!!
sleep is but a preview of death, does that mean that all cowards fear sleeping, and all living is cowards?
but, mf support?
Exactly!
but, thresh adc support