But seriously, Nerf Duskblade
deadlychuck33 votesThen the mages are in the corner hoping to one day have any amount of consideration given towards them.
Legacy Hydralpha69 votesThen the mages that aren't Orianna and Syndra are in the corner hoping to one day have any amount of consideration given towards them.
NodirjonSattarov10 votesNot like they had their MYMU last year and revamp of AP items introducing some of the most ridiculous items -
New morellonmicon = never run out of mana, here's free CDR AND as a bonus we'll throw in grevious wounds!
Protobelt = lets give mages with gap closes even more gap close!
CDR FOR YOU CDR FOR YOUUU CDR FOR EVERYONE!
Legacy Hydralpha23 votesMorellos is really good, but it probably has one of the more fair Grievous Wounds passives. The other GW items are basically applied all through right-clicking, be it whether you clicked on someone else (
) or they clicked on you (
).
And I don't think any mages really use Protobelt, asides from 
.
NodirjonSattarov4 votesthe efficiency of the two items are completely different though. morello is a core item on at least 60% of mages and the GW passive is applied for 3 seconds longer than mortal reminder. the cost efficency of Mortal Reminder is 67% without its passive whereas Morello is 117% WITHOUT its passives.
proto belt fizz? ekko? vlad? I've seldom seen annie build proto. why? she has the pressure of 4 stacks on her passive for incredible zone. she doesn't need to use proto belt lmao
Legacy Hydralpha8 votesEkko and Fizz aren't mages tho. I was thinking that Annie would use Protobelt to do the whole Protobelt-Bear combo.
Divewing3 votesI low key think Gunblade is better on Ekko anyway tbh...
aspects14 votesexcept morellos's grevious wounds lasts 8s, while mortal reminder's last 5s, and thornmail's last 1s
9Wly9oMl0214 votesAnd let's also reduce the AP on just about every item :D
Torterra622 votes[{quoted}](name=Lace Up,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OjPczEfw,comment-id=0003000000000001,timestamp=2017-07-17T15:12:24.795+0000)
And let's also reduce the AP on just about every item :D
... so rylais rod of ages and zhonyas
Cosmic Warper8 votes... so rylais rod of ages and zhonyas
luden's echo and abyssal, which is now a tank item.
AirKingNeo2 votesLuden's has had 100 AP for a long time before MYMU.
Also you gained a more broken Veil.
Skorch1 votesDidnt they reduce AD on AD items too? I am fairly sure there were many MANY choices for 80AD items a few seasons back.
9Wly9oMl022 votesA couple of them, yes. Not nearly as many as AP, though. Also, a slight reduction in AD is no where near as noticeable as a larger amount of AP, considering auto attacks are not the same as spell rotations. They also added a lot of things to those items, like bonus damage on RFC kind of stuff. Which negates the damage a lot more than CD on every item so that you go over the CD cap anyway, making it useless lol.
DrCyanide2 votesBloodthirster went from 70AD to 80AD in 4.10, 80AD to 75AD in 5.22, then back to 80AD in 7.9
Infinity Edge went from 80AD to 75AD in 1.0.0.107, back to 80AD in 1.0.0.115, down to 70AD in 1.0.0.152, back up to 80AD in 4.10, down to 65AD in 5.22, up to 70AD in 6.12
Basically AD core items have fluctuated around this point for a long time.
Cosmic Warper4 votes[{quoted}](name=General KogMaw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OjPczEfw,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-07-17T14:21:59.878+0000)
Not like they had their MYMU last year and revamp of AP items introducing some of the most ridiculous items -
New morellonmicon = never run out of mana, here's free CDR AND as a bonus we'll throw in grevious wounds!
Protobelt = lets give mages with gap closes even more gap close!
CDR FOR YOU CDR FOR YOUUU CDR FOR EVERYONE!
only a few champions actually use protobelt. GLP is like an Asol only item, and morello's has always been strong. It has to be for a primary core, just like youmuus, Bork, sunfire (which is now trash :/).
r4ndomkill2 voteskass also likes glp
Big Lincoln3 votesmuh wizards
NineTailedMystic6 votesmuh jägernauts
Cryo005 votesI am still waiting on mages having the same item diversity as ADCs.
Junkο32 votesMore like
Joxcab8 votesAnd as we all know, we can't just make Lethality items melee only so that literally their intended users can use them because then Riot fails in pandering to ADCs once again.
ModCaptainMårvelous7 votesHell, you don't even need to make it melee only. Just give melee the long-end of the stick like they were going to with BORK. That way you can still get it if it's a champ who REALLY loves it (Lucian) but it won't ever be as good as a melee using it.
Big Lincoln6 votescompensating melee characters for being melee isn't on riot's to-do list
ModCaptainMårvelous8 votesThe weird part was that they did for like half a PBE patch.
Joxcab2 votesYeah then Riot realized their mistake. Kappa.
Thefrostyviking1 votesOBJECTION!.
There are only two "good" lethality users among marksmen, MF and Jhin.
They are the only ones based on the current subclass classifications among marksmen that use lethality well.
And you totally missed the point where Zed and Talon are monstrously strong too.
LeBlanc Rose1 votesLucian and Cait deal true damage with their ults and enough lethality.... Cait can click on someone to delete them.
Thefrostyviking2 votesOnly works when she has all the items, snowballs a bit and targets someone with no extra armor.
I know it because i tested it for a while to see.
Lucian is better but he honestly works better with either the facemelter build (botrk-cleaver) or just straight up crits.
Because being so reliant on a ultimate with such limitations is a terrible idea, jhin works because of his unique kit and passive and MF because her ulti is a channeled AOE along with her passive ontop as well as her W.
Lethality cait needs someone to feed her and step on traps and lethality lucian needs to snowball.
Jhin and MF work just fine even if they don't and simply go even or have a small snowball.
LeBlanc Rose1 votesI never said they were viable, just true damage with their ults.
Thefrostyviking1 votesYet you presented it in a way that made it sound OP.
" Cait can click on someone to delete them"
This is pretty much as close as you can get with saying that a champions damage is OP without actually outright saying it.
And what does true damage matter when it's extremely low? People just grab a small amount of armor and the lethality is pretty much nullified.
for marksmen and 
for mages.
Chance of being instantly deleted by AD is utterly nonexistent with a build that uses those items unless the attackers is extremely fed.
Synnx710 votesBalance in this game doesnt exist. at all
RainXBlade4 votesThe day League becomes balanced is the day people will stop hating on the following:
TimX24968B9 votes
the cycle of nerfs and buffs continues
Wicked Hunter2 votes
We will live, ADC's will die
Dream High9 votes"ADCs complain about getting one shotted" Adc's are also doing the one shotting as well.
Skias8 votesHonestly, if the game didn't have copious amounts of CDR exploding out of every item, the game would be in better shape. Cooldowns would actually matter and be a stat to build into. Now you just get 40% for free.
Kovorix5 votesNot like ADCs don't build duskblade and oneshot.
Wicked Hunter1 votesNop but tanks build one item and oneshot adc's cause we got nice balance in this game. Dunno who's brain they re using when they re bringing more "balance".
I start to think it's 
cause most of patches are a joke
Jbels5 votesNop but tanks build one item and oneshot adc's cause we got nice balance in this game. Dunno who's brain they re using when they re bringing more "balance". I start to think it's
Tanks are not able to actually do that.
Wicked Hunter1 votesTanks are not able to actually do that.
Oh they do and they do it rlly good. Check Darius Illaoi they re actually unkillable and poke rlly hard. Even ww is a danger
Jbels3 votesOh they do and they do it rlly good. Check Darius Illaoi they re actually unkillable and poke rlly hard. Even ww is a danger
Those aren't tanks...Darius and Illaoi are juggernauts, Warwick is a diver. How are people still making this mistake?
Divewing1 votesBecause people would rather group everything that builds a defensive item as a tank, then cry about it when they apply logic that applies solely to actual tanks to the rest.
LeBlanc Rose1 votesI build 
as a defensive item on some adc.... guess I'm a tank?
Divewing1 votesWhen an item is built to slow people so you can hit them more, is it still a defensive item?
Also, if a Maokai dies in the jungle and no one is around, does it make a sound? (Answer is yes, n00b got executed LUL)
LeBlanc Rose1 votes700 health = defensive item
Divewing1 votesOk we get, you can be a pedantic douche
Ðelofasht4 votesOh they do and they do it rlly good. Check Darius Illaoi they re actually unkillable and poke rlly hard. Even ww is a danger
. . . Tank = CC monster, hits like a wet paper sack (strings but is very unlikely to kill you unless you slipped and fell down a cliff on the bag).
Juggernaut = Damage dealing monster, hits like a truck, unfortunately if you see the you are safe to just limp away because they should never be able to catch up to you (no mobility).
Tanks will get to you and CC you, Juggernauts will get kited. WW is a diver, not a tank or juggernaut.
Please learn roles and how to play against them.
cowers in the corner as Fizz and Talon beat the shit out of him