Can people stop pretending that the roles they get are an error?

z14GaKI7TO··4 votes·439 views

So many posts of people complaining about always getting their secondary.

Look. If you queue up and your 2 choices are a very sought after role (such as mid) and a role that not even close to as many people want to play (like support) you'll most likely get the undesirable role. This is not a system error. This is literally the system doing its job to find 10 players as fast as possible.

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TheLittlestLulu2 votes

http://i.imgur.com/c9n9IsD.png

Yeah the system sure is working fine.

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

I don't see the issue...

TheLittlestLulu1 votes

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I don't see the issue...

Someone who queued as mid/adc and someone who queued as adc/mid got put on the same team and both of them were assigned their secondary role.

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

Okay... And they very simply and quickly resolved the issue. Don't really see a problem there... System obviously won't be perfect, never said it was. All I was saying that if you queue for the same role as 90% of players and put your secondary as a role that 2% of players queue for odds are you're gonna get the latter.

TheLittlestLulu1 votes

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Okay... And they very simply and quickly resolved the issue. Don't really see a problem there... System obviously won't be perfect, never said it was. All I was saying that if you queue for the same role as 90% of players and put your secondary as a role that 2% of players queue for odds are you're gonna get the latter.

Ok, so why do I keep getting mid when I want support?

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

Pretty sure about 57 of your last 60 games are all support so...

There's also way more supports in diamond elo than lower.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

We do not pretend it's 'an error'. We just try to get Riot to do something with this, many people like me stopped supporting at all (expect for premade games) because picking secondary support guarantees you supporting. This only makes queue times longer for everyone, because less and less people ever queue as supports.

It's not too hard to understand that but hey, take all the time you need. [slayer-jinx-wink]

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

If no one wants to support and you pick it, you will get it. I don't know why that's hard for you to understand. Riot can't just be like "alright, we don't have many supports in queue right now, let's just give the mid/top guy support instead to make this queue go faster".

There's nothing riot can do if people don't want to play the role.

If more people queued as support, you'd get support less. Woah. Amazing. Simple logic? No, it can't be!

It's not too hard to understand that but hey, take all the time you need.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

If no one wants to support and you pick it, you will get it. I don't know why that's hard for you to understand.

How hard it is to understand nobody wants to support precisely for that reason? When dynamic queue started it was far bettter, but it made more and more people quit supporting. Making queue times a bit longer for support secondaries but giving them better chance to play primary role would only make things better.

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

You can't force people to like support. If you select it, that's on you. Just like if you put secondary jungle and get it, you have no right to complain.

Shonjl2 votes

The point is no one likes to support, nothing else matters, nothing you say nor I say or anyone else says. That is fact.

End of the line, no one likes support so if you sup main or secondary or fill, you get support. The fact they give people options now allows people to further alienate the role, and now that people willing to support are getting tired of it, it is getting even more alienated.

Riot basically has 2 options else this will fail.

A. Make support actually worth playing, yes there is people that enjoy it, but if the majority don't. It probably wouldn't be too far fetched to say less than 5% of people actually enjoy support, and probably less than 10% that tolerate it. Then it isn't a fun role, simple as that. My suggestion would be at least quit gold starving the class. Give them a way to have a support only item that can't be abused that actually gives them gold. People hate that they are underleveled and poor as support, just making items like item 3069 or item 3092 actually have good gold incomes would fix a lot. Make Talisman give like 80% of a minions worth if you are nearby and make Frost Queen either raise its x gold per 10 to something actually worth a damn, hell I would say 50, 1 minute is 300g, that isn't gamechanging. Or make it increase your passive gold, hell make it 2-10 added to your passive, if you get 1g every second, make it give 3-11g per second randomly. Just examples but point stands.

B. Get rid of support entirely. There is a lot of champs that are PURPOSELY made weak so they can support since Riot doesn't like when supports solo lane. So get rid of supports entirely. Throw ADC to mid lane where they are alone to farm as they please and make bot lane a double lane of whatever the hell you please, mages, assassins, tanks, whatever.

While some can be debated since yes some is opinion, a lot of that we all know is true. People just don't like support, make it better or get rid of it is basically all I can think of.

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

Jus to let you know I haven't not and have no intention to read any of this unnecessarily long post. Just thought I'd let you know.

Shonjl1 votes

Go ahead, be a worthless ahole then, doesn't matter to me. You clearly had enough time to make a reply to this long post lol.

Sad sad person lol.

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

It's not that I didn't have time, I just don't care about what you have to say :)

Shonjl1 votes

Funny thing is I was actually agreeing with you, so enjoy being a douchebag to someone that was agreeing with you. Got better things to do then get bashed by some CoD wannabe when I was agreeing with them.

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

OH SHIT I CONFUSED YOU AND THE ORIGINAL PERSON I WAS REPLYINT TO BECAUSE YOUR ICONS ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR MY BAD FAM

I thought you were the guy I was replying to going off on some tangent mbmb

Alex Sloan1 votes

On the topic of "errors" - there have been several games where I select "Mid/Jungle" and receive Top.

However, it hasn't happened to me with any other selection(s). Just that.

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