AP Item Changes. good idea, Wrong Time.

Lysdexic1··5 votes·1,186 views

The tentative AP item changes currently going to the PBE are a GREAT idea Riot. It's going to promote more build diversity and make more items viable. However, burst mages are already in a bad place. Mid lane is more of a haven for assassins and poke mages at the moment. Past the laning phase, because of the tanks they have a hard time finding use in teamfights. The AP reduction will mean they will have a harder time dealing damage during this tank meta. AP mages like LeBlanc are going to love this change just as much as the burst mages. These problems should be addressed first, before you decide to go through with the AP item changes. I applaud you, Riot for trying to innovate this game, however these things should be done in an order of priority.

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ChargeItDownMid6 votes

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Lysdexic11 votes

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The changes mainly benefit immobile dot mages like brand and malzahar who haven't been in the meta for the past 2 years.

They more benefit the assassins like LeBlanc who can still burst you down without items, take that gold and now buy NLR earlier.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Ya, Malza one of the top mages in this meta isn't in the meta.

UWOTM8?

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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Vistha Kai1 votes

And solo queue is, what, 90% of all games?

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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Vistha Kai1 votes

Normal games are also mostly solo queue.

Team ranked is a joke not an environment to balance the game around.

MMR is non-existant there. I had like 3 teams and every single time we were matched with everybody from Bronze to Challenger. And I don't mean solo queue ranks here.

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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Vistha Kai1 votes

You are right.

http://champion.gg/champion/malzahar

Oh, wait. You aren't.

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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Vistha Kai1 votes

Those stats are from Platinum and higher ELO games, you ignorant.

The base of your argument is that Bronze and Silver make up for 90% of playerbase. Which by itself shows how ignorant you are and how pointless it is to discuss it with you.

http://www.lolsummoners.com/stats Not even close to 90%.

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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Vistha Kai1 votes

The only person obsessed here is you. Perhaps literally.

So how about this one? http://na.op.gg/statistics/tier/

Graph shows % of people in a tier against all players ranked and unranked.

Wînter Fox2 votes

What is OP smoking. This helps out every other Mage build besides straight up item 3157 item 3285 item 3089 burst.

Carry1 votes

This post makes no sense. OP is just wrong about everything.

Currently burst mages are much stronger than assassins. Leblanc is the single weakest midlane champ after her nerfs. Annie/Malzahar and other burst mages are all EXTREMELY strong.

These itemization changes HURT assassins. They help DoT and other mages especially against the health-stacking cinderhulk meta. Also they help a few particular champs differentially well (kog'maw, karthus).

taleofsonata1 votes

Leblanc is dead winrate and playability dropped, I don`t think those change will impact her but on the other hand Katarina tho.

WildCard8231 votes

The tank meta is slowly going away. This helps the champs that can come into light to actually change the meta to a mage meta.

I'm excited to use these item changes on Annie.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Speaking of letting champs come into light, I wonder when Annie will get a meaningful nerf/rework.

WildCard8232 votes

I hope to God they don't rework Annie anytime soon. I love the mindless point and click nature of her.

Bultz1 votes

I completly disagree in saying assassins have more play than mages. Ap is highly op especially in damage. Yes Assassins have some plays, but a few good pokes and the assassins have to back because a lot of them are close range.

AhhShucks1 votes

Can someone link the source on these changes? I'm seeing threads left and right but can't find the source to save my life.

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