We want Solo Queue

KING ATTILA·Jun 28, 2016·196 votes·3,982 views

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116 Comments

FortisDominusJun 28, 201622 votes

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MrWasjigJun 29, 20168 votes

Upvote the upvote!

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Ryzing2DiamondJun 29, 201614 votes

Not all of us want Solo-Q. Stop.

KING ATTILAJun 29, 201610 votes

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Not all of us want Solo-Q. Stop.

Not all? True... Just an overwhelming majority of the League community want Solo Queue.

stealthfox94Jun 29, 20168 votes

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Not all? True... Just an overwhelming majority of the Board community want Solo Queue.

Fixed.

UniVibeJun 29, 201614 votes

And the majority of the YouTube community and the majority of the Reddit community.

Fixed. You know, insignificant websites.

stealthfox94Jun 29, 20166 votes

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And the majority of the YouTube community and the majority of the Reddit community.

Fixed. You know, insignificant websites.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe just maybe the people outraged are a very vocal minority and the people who either like DQ or don't care either way just don't comment on the mater [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

NarasimhaJun 29, 20164 votes

Just to jump in, 2 fallacies with that

More often than not, the same people use both websites (Reddit and the Boards). So it's not a very big difference in communities
Even if you took the ENTIRE Reddit community, that's still less than 1,000,000 people. That's not even 2% of the playerbase, assuming it hasn't shot down ridiculously quickly.

KING ATTILAJun 29, 20164 votes

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Just to jump in, 2 fallacies with that

More often than not, the same people use both websites (Reddit and the Boards). So it's not a very big difference in communities

Even if you took the ENTIRE Reddit community, that's still less than 1,000,000 people. That's not even 2% of the playerbase, assuming it hasn't shot down ridiculously quickly.

The facts: I don't see anyone, anywhere, praising DQ. I see the opposite. Combing the solo and team ranked ladder removes the integrity of ranked. Skill as an individual to perform with a team of strangers of equal skill level =/= the skill of a premade team of different skill levels.

NarasimhaJun 29, 20165 votes

The facts: I don't see anyone, anywhere, praising DQ.

My point exactly. It's not that people like it. It's just that they don't dislike it. The vast majority of people don't care one way or another. They just want to play a game. As long as that doesn't change, they're satisfied.

UniVibeJun 29, 201613 votes

The majority have spoken kid.

Dextix LTJun 29, 201613 votes

At least the majority that actually CARES about the game.

Amasa DelanoJun 29, 20168 votes

At least the majority that talk about League on the internet.

Dextix LTJun 29, 20163 votes

So yea, those who care about the league more than playing a few matches.....

Amasa DelanoJun 29, 20164 votes

It's possible to play a game for hours and days and weeks and never feel a compulsion to talk about it on the internet.

Dextix LTJun 29, 20163 votes

It is possible to live in a country but never vote for the president...

So again, only those who TRULY care about the game, its future and direction are in the social websites.

Others simply play the game casually and dont care.

Amasa DelanoJun 29, 20163 votes

Some people may care about a game, but just aren't that social. And, of course, if they like it's direction, and they aren't that social, we probably aren't going to hear from them on the boards.

Mr FidoriJun 29, 20164 votes

Actually, the majority hasn't spoken. That's the point. The majority doesn't care, and has specifically said nothing because they're too busy worrying about the game. But the boards have spoken, not in great quality, but in great volume.

Troll for TrumpJun 30, 20162 votes

the boards have spoken And Youtube, Reddit which has now been censored, Social Media, the Pro Players, etc. etc.

Mr FidoriJun 30, 20161 votes

True, but a lot of those are the same people on different sites.

Troll for TrumpJun 30, 20163 votes

I think when almost all the pro players hate DynaQ, DynaQ might be bad..

Mr FidoriJun 30, 20161 votes

They also hate issues that aren't related to it at all. Plus, all the experts on anything in the world can still be wrong (not saying that it's a perfect system or anything -- just playing devil's advocate).

Troll for TrumpJun 30, 20163 votes

Experts can be wrong, but that's when they have differing opinions. Basically all pros hate it.

Also playing Devil's advocate, Just saying, the people who are pro dynaQ might ACTUALLY be the minority.

Mr FidoriJun 30, 20162 votes

Now you're getting the game. People say everything with such certainty.

Incidentally, I don't think dynamic queue supporters are the majority. I think the real majority is vehemently neutral, and care about different things.

VoidreyJun 30, 20161 votes

the pros hate it because this mostly and most greatly effects only those in high elo

Troll for TrumpJun 30, 20163 votes

It affects low elo just as much.

PiVoRxJun 29, 20164 votes

Yep, only ones that are against boosting do.

Ryzing2DiamondJun 29, 20164 votes

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Yep, only ones that are against boosting do.

You're all over-reacting. It isn't that easy to boost people with Dynamic Q.

GayFluffyUnicornJun 29, 20163 votes

Well playing in promo to plat 1 and your premade bot dies 13 times in 17 minutes, surrendering 20:41 and ruining my promo speaks for itself. I'm sick of premades. Especially those who have a 25% winrate together.

Ryzing2DiamondJun 29, 20163 votes

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Well playing in promo to plat 1 and your premade bot dies 13 times in 17 minutes, surrendering 20:41 and ruining my promo speaks for itself. I'm sick of premades. Especially those who have a 25% winrate together.

That's not a problem with Dynamic queue. You do remember that Solo-queue allowed you to duo queue right? That was so you could duo with a support as botlane. It happened back then too. Seriously.

GayFluffyUnicornJul 4, 20162 votes

Back then i wouldn't be punished for THEM playing premade. (u know they are getting a higher placed enemy thus leading me to for example lose against a lower placed enemy ruining my mmr). And yes people complained since the start about the duo premades don't know why u people always mention that? We know that and allowing more than 2 premades against solos doesn't solve the problem it only makes it worse? So i don'T understand that reference it adds nothing to the discussion and i just see it as: blabla i wanted to say something.

Ryzing2DiamondJul 4, 20161 votes

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Back then i wouldn't be punished for THEM playing premade. (u know they are getting a higher placed enemy thus leading me to for example lose against a lower placed enemy ruining my mmr). And yes people complained since the start about the duo premades don't know why u people always mention that? We know that and allowing more than 2 premades against solos doesn't solve the problem it only makes it worse? So i don'T understand that reference it adds nothing to the discussion and i just see it as: blabla i wanted to say something.

Read the quote. In your original post you were complaining about a duo botlane. That happened in Solo-Q too. That's relevant.

GayFluffyUnicornJul 4, 20162 votes

Yes and in my original post i said "i'm sick of premades". Not "i'm sick of more than two premades" or "i'm sick of bot premades". I'm sick of premades in general, that's why i already complained about it during SQ times. We don'Ät want the old SQ we want a pure soloQ. No premades at all.

i hate school101Jun 29, 20168 votes

I personally think bringing it back would be GREAT, Going against premade 5's who actually work together, ( if u know what i mean ) can really just suck and results in losses alot.

KING ATTILAJun 29, 20163 votes

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I personally think bringing it back would be GREAT, Going against premade 5's who actually work together, ( if u know what i mean ) can really just suck and results in losses alot.

I agree.

Steven McburnJun 29, 20167 votes

Honestly just stop playing. Which sounds dumb, but the less solo's in the queue the more frustrating it is for those remaining, who will also stop playing.

It's a cycle, it's naturally spiraling downward right now, but it could be much faster if more people would stop torturing themselves and stop using the system.

Added benefit of the whole "we have stats to say more people are playing ranked than EVAR!" becoming less true too. I know I stopped awhile back, not like I'm missing much on this clown fiesta of a season anyway.

LirikJun 29, 20164 votes

i do exactly the same as you, its an easy way to get it back faster and its logical riot even said both queue could not exist because they would lack of solo players in dynamicQ .... lets make them lack of solo player in the DQ even if we don't have soloQ and also don't buy RP till they give the soloQ back ...

GayFluffyUnicornJun 29, 20164 votes

Same. I was dumb enough to try a few ranked games after a week. Same shit like always, pure lottery if you get the boosted animals or the enemy team. It's not fun at all. But atleast i'm havin fun on my smurf crushing bronze/silvers.

Virgin RayJun 28, 20166 votes

but riot wont listen

KING ATTILAJun 28, 201621 votes

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but riot wont listen

I'm going to keep making posts like this until they do. Others are doing the same.

JpereJun 30, 20163 votes

Riot didn't realize the main problem yet. Ratios? Match Making time? I do not care any of them which one did get better. But! to say one thing as a player who really loves LOL, we all lost the goal to play rank games and achieve high ranks. Why? cuz nobody will believe each other's tier and it really does in korea now. What would "No respect for high rankers" mean? We can still cooperate with our friends with normal queue enough and the reason WHY we want solo Queue is that we need a "Credible" standard to measure our current relative proficiency, not the skill of our friendships!!!! Seriously, I'm not kidding and at least in korea, everyone w.a.n.t.s solo Q back. If not, it won't last too long because "Overwatch" is still waiting for all of us.. :)

so PLEAAAASE!!! SNAP OUT OF IT!!!

i am from S. Korea so, my english would not be perfect. Sorry for my mistakes of grammar. really hope LOL last as the "legend" aos game forever.

KING ATTILAJun 30, 20162 votes

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Riot didn't realize the problem yet. Ratios? Match Making time? I do not care any of them which one did get better. But! to say one thing as a player who really loves LOL, we all lost the goal to play rank games and achieve high ranks. Why? cuz nobody will believe each other's tier and it really does in korea now. We can cooperate with our friends with normal queue enough and the reason WHY we want solo Queue is that we need a standard to measure our current relative proficiency, not the skill of cooperation!!!! Seriously, I'm not kidding, everyone w.a.n.t.s solo Q back at least in korea, and if not, it won't last too long because "Overwatch" is waiting for us.. :)

so PLEAAAASE!!! SNAP OUT OF IT!!!

i am from S. Korea so, my english would not be perfect. Sorry for my mistakes of grammar. really hope LOL last as the "legend" aos game forever.

Your English is good! Thank you for sharing your information. It's valuable to know that the South Korean Players feel the same way about Solo Queue and Dynamic Queue, since the competitive gaming culture is stronger in South Korea.

JpereJun 30, 20163 votes

Thanks. By the way, the market share of LOL in S.Korea just has turned around by Overwatch last week. LOL : 28.8% OverWatch : 32.3%

I guess the gap will get much more increased by the time passes. Something has to be changed

redfeenixJun 29, 20165 votes

Not according to riot's data you don't. You might think you do but the data clearly shows solo players are in the minority. If you play solo you have no friends . Please make some friends.

Riot's thinking is fuxked. Why would they give solo players the middle finger like this ? And what kind of bullshit excuses like above do they come up with.

Shield of TargonJun 30, 20163 votes

Can I ask an honest question? Why does everybody want solo queue so much? In what ways has dynamic queue made playing League of Legends worse?

KING ATTILAJun 30, 20163 votes

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Can I ask an honest question? Why does everybody want solo queue so much? In what ways has dynamic queue made playing League of Legends worse?

Not League in general, but the ranked ladder is fucked.

Dextix LTJun 30, 20166 votes

Ranked integrity is ruined. You have premades and soloes in same matchups, and the solo player is alwas at a disatvantage at those times. Thus there is no fairness and one group of players always has an advantage, thus be able to rise even if their skill level is not that high.

Even when premades are on your team, it is bad for the solo. Because it robs him of his team contribution. He will never contribute as 3 or 4 people will. Thus he has less decision power, less carrying power and is dependant not on his skill but on skill off his premade.

Rampant LEGAL boosting. Previously, you could still boost, but it was 1 account at most. Now you can boost up to 4 people, need i continue?

KING ATTILAJun 30, 20163 votes

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Ranked integrity is ruined. You have premades and soloes in same matchups, and the solo player is alwas at a disatvantage at those times. Thus there is no fairness and one group of players always has an advantage, thus be able to rise even if their skill level is not that high.

Even when premades are on your team, it is bad for the solo. Because it robs him of his team contribution. He will never contribute as 3 or 4 people will. Thus he has less decision power, less carrying power and is dependant not on his skill but on skill off his premade.

Rampant LEGAL boosting. Previously, you could still boost, but it was 1 account at most. Now you can boost up to 4 people, need i continue?

There is literally no counter argument to this. It is cut and dry common sense logic.

NightmareAmazoXJun 30, 20162 votes

Agreed :l

BlanchimontJun 30, 20163 votes

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Can I ask an honest question? Why does everybody want solo queue so much? In what ways has dynamic queue made playing League of Legends worse?

Matchmaking