If % crit damage runes exist...

TeCoolMage··1 votes·272 views

Where are our % heal and shield runes?!

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IcyPepper2 votes

Not literally every stat ever needs a rune. Please. There's enough as is.

TeCoolMage1 votes

gee if you don't like them

news flash

you don't have to buy them!

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it's almost as if you have this thing called 'a choice'!

IcyPepper1 votes

gee it's like

news flash

you didn't address my main point!

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On a more serious note, I'm trying to say not every single stat needs a rune. Masteries interact with shields and heals and the like, and there's items with a %boost to healing and shielding power.

Not to mention that most healing in champion kits, particularly the ones that don't use support items, are balanced with appropriate levers. They wouldn't have much incentive to use these runes anyway, since their healing likely scales off a better stat in the first place. These runes would either be weak and useless, but making them overshadow their normal counterparts would likely wreck their balancing levers which would result in the champion being Sejuani'd (in other words, nerfed so they HAVE to take the runes to be as effective as before).

I just don't think it'd work. There's just no point to it. Give me the kind of champion you're thinking this might get some mileage with and maybe I could reconsider my opinion.

TeCoolMage1 votes

Soraka on marks

doesn't need armour marks as much as someone with a shorter range like Janna, and doesn't deal damage like lux

ALSO champions like Lux/Orianna in mid lane who are willing to sacrifice magic penetration early game for improved late game shielding and a more supportive playstyle work extremely well with this rune. They're not supporting so they don't get the % shield items. It stacks multiplicatively with their AP and they never get the stat, which makes it a late game stat (think about it - by buying even ardent censer you sacrifice 20 AP when you can be buying another 80 AP item. Having a stat multiply your full AP build shield is a lot late game, similar to how MPen stacks multiplicatively with your damage.)

EXAMPLES:

With 600 AP at max rank shield from buying no % heal items (redemption takes off a lot of AP), a solo lane Lux gets 220+240 (460) shield, and with 20% heal combined from 10% windspeaker keystone and 10% from runes if you don't take thunderlord's you get 82 shield from W. Worth 205 AP. (102.5 AP since half is from keystone). Pretty much the same with Orianna who has similar bases and same AP ratio.

Soraka in a solo lane late game with 600 full AP build gets from 1 QW with max ranks at both: 310+660 (970) heal over 5 seconds, 1164 total heal, gaining 194 HP. That's 176 AP. (88 AP from runes only), though getting ardent censer will probably give bigger numbers without sacrificing much since she doesn't even use AP to deal damage in the first place like Lux.

Of course they might not go full AP and buy a bit of defensive stats, but you get the point.

Comparison to MPen mark's effectiveness: Assuming no bought MR and ranged, 10 MPen from runes + 15 from boots + 5 from masteries compared to 15 from boots + 5 from masteries only (I used best case scenario last time where they go full AP and no % heal, so only fair that I use best case scenario)

Ranged champs with no MR end up with 0 MR left against MPen runes, 10 MR left against no MPen runes. 1 - 1/1.1 = 0.09090909... (1/11) difference between damage

Orianna's 600 AP QW is 430 + 720 (1150), gains ~105 damage, worth around 87.5 AP (from earlier soraka gains 88 APs worth of healing).

Soraka Q 230+210 (440), gains 40 damage, worth around ~114 (from earlier Lux/Orianna get 102.5 APs worth of shielding)

So 1.1% heal or just 1% heal is worth around 1 MPen mark assuming you make them as efficient as possible (MPen gets better as you get more of it until your reduce their MR to 0, heal % gets better as you increase the raw numbers).

Reaper Soraka1 votes

I love the idea, but they wouldn't make it much better than 5AP quints if they even got that far.

TeCoolMage1 votes

they can be marks like crit damage :P

mpen isn't good on most healers/shield

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