He's gotten a crap load of buffs on his ult that no one even realized, Sated jax is cancer, Its like everyone complains about the most stupid crap on the forums and completely ignores half the champs, Tryndamere is the same as yasuo and he never gets the same complains
LVL 5 PORO19 votesJax isnt a problem, Rageblade is.
spank me lee3 votes[{quoted}](name=L Ange Noir Von,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ONpElOL7,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2015-11-26T18:15:50.253+0000)
Jax isnt a problem, Rageblade is.
then yasuo isnt a problem, Static shiv and cloak is
Sinlaire1 votesthat is thinking a = b and b = c means a = c.
It's not because a= d and b = c. they're close but not the same. Rageblade gives Jax what is no less than STUPID amounts of stats for him to kill with. It's the reason why Riot nerfed the cost and will probably nerf it a little again next patch. math says that the total value of the stats of Rageblade at max stacks is worth twice the gold of the item. Twice.
it's the most cost efficient in the game. Now Yasuo's passive makes it so that all crit is twice as efficient on him, but that's only until he hits 100% crit. After that, every ounce of crit has literally 0 efficiency. it's filling a full cup and does absolutely nothing. Yasuo's kit "WAS" also balanced around his passive while Jax was not balanced for it and rageblade was not balanced for him.
Right here we see two instances of situations of items having twice their worth, but rageblade displays full value at every stage of the game for every champion. Yasuo's passive displays full value until his crit is maxed, and then is worthless the rest of the game.
So really, like i said, these situations may look similar, but in fact they're not even close.
CatSith10 votesHis passive is the problem lol.
Spizzle90001 votesI see what you mean, but honestly your sarcastic statement has a valid point. It's too damn easy for ANYONE to acquire a large amount of crit chance. It's preposterous how easy it is now, and that is at least a part of why Yasuo is so damn strong.
But, I agree with you, Jax requires nerfs, as does Rageblade.
Hayaishi218 votesEveryone with Sated is cancer. Master Yi, Xin Zhao, Tryndamere, Jax all Cancer.
HayRoss1 votes
Is can-
Wait, this might actually be a thing
Can U AD See Me1 votesReminds me of bad times QQ my support went retard picked up smite and started stealing our jungler buff and built devourer Braum
3TWarrior1 votesBraum doesn't even need devourer...now every ADC can proc his passive on 3 people at once with runaan's hurricane
Spizzle90001 votesWhat about 
? :3
ZLbSwAR23I13 votesBecause he isn't Yasuo. Despite having a higher win rate, Jax isn't Yasuo. Everyone on this forum has a massive hate boner for Yasuo and will stop at nothing to see him gutted.
spank me lee2 votesBecause he isn't Yasuo. Despite having a higher win rate, Jax isn't Yasuo. Everyone on this forum has a massive hate boner for Yasuo and will stop at nothing to see him gutted.
Mhmm, Everyone plays allot of mages. and mages were nerfed and yasuo was buffed, they even complained about him before pre season
001100013 votesMages got nerfed? This guy must be 
new.
LadyRenly5 votesAnivia, Brand and Swain are in the crosshairs.
3TWarrior1 votessad thing is, anivia didn't even benefit from any of the masteries...
hi im alphonse1 votesgroaaaaan
magic pole5 votesbecause yasuo is a hyper carry lane bully.
unless you specifically counter him he has so many dashes that any skillshot based champion has the odds ridiculously tilted against them.
"just pop his shield"
and then he has windwall.
and then he can just stand behind minions, walk around for a few seconds and again is instantly immune to harass
spank me lee2 votes[{quoted}](name=magic pole,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ONpElOL7,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-11-26T05:53:06.836+0000)
because yasuo is a hyper carry lane bully.
unless you specifically counter him he has so many dashes that any skillshot based champion has the odds ridiculously tilted against them.
"just pop his shield"
and then he has windwall.
and then he can just stand behind minions, walk around for a few seconds and again is instantly immune to harass
he's a lane bully with a very high snowball potential, lets put it at that, If your up against an ap caster your most likely going to win if you dont get ganks, the only downside to yasuo is that he can't beat anyone tanky, but counters every mage. soo its kinda weird, plus there are so many more annoying champs,
Niyumi5 votes"Counters every mage"
Syndra, Brand, Lux, a good Ahri, Kassadin, Ekko, a good Anivia, etc. all hand him his ass. Yasuo just requires knowledge of his kit, your kit, power spikes, and all that in order to win. Can't just faceroll through it.
spank me lee1 votes"Counters every mage"
Syndra, Brand, Lux, a good Ahri, Kassadin, Ekko, a good Anivia, etc. all hand him his ass. Yasuo just requires knowledge of his kit, your kit, power spikes, and all that in order to win. Can't just faceroll through it.
thats what I always say, but according to the community he beats all those champs
Niyumi1 votesYeah, people in this game are just ridiculous. If any champ makes them think about what they're doing, or put in effort in order to win, then they're obviously broken beyond any kind of rationale.
Just one of the many reasons I hate F2P and modern gaming; breeds entitled, lazy assholes that whine and cry any time they can't just pay to win, and throw a tantrum if they have to lift a finger or fire a single brain synapse.
Gaddafi2 votesBecause he isn't Yasuo. Despite having a higher win rate, Jax isn't Yasuo. Everyone on this forum has a massive hate boner for Yasuo and will stop at nothing to see him gutted.
You still can play around Jax'es strong points, but Yasuo play around yours and that is big difference :D
Puynsi8 votesBecause Jax was always strong, back in S2 people would ban him because of his snowball potential, now we just gotta wait for the rageblade nerf.
Dunkrius2g1 votesHis base health was retarded way before. I remember that he had 2x 
and i see that he has 2.7k health. Before he can kick anyone ass. Now all he needs is 
and can seriously just build full tank and penetrate anyone with that pole of his.
Niyumi5 votesI complain about Jax all the time. Not like it does anything but make people in my matches hate me. Speaking logically isn't welcome in League.
Valexfor5 votesBecause jax's problem comes from items, tryndamere's comes from items, Yasuo has a shitton of crap in his base kit, you don't really cry about a champ when his power comes from items, yo ucan ask to balance out the item, but item sinergy has always been a thing and can't be totally balanced out.
Zedex1 votesOh theres an unwritten rule about what we're aloud to cry about and what we're not aloud to?
Who died and made you forum master.
Valexfor3 votesNope, you asked why no one complains about him and I gave you MY opinion. And actually a lot of people complain about jax and tryndamere, it's just that Yasuo gets more. And anyway complaining about a strong sinergy is like complaining that fire burns, it's supposed to be like that. Jax being op with sated is supposed to be like that (like all junglers ho can pick it) since it's a CARRY ITEM, and a carry must be strong. Jax being strong 1 vs 1 is supposed to be normal, he's a dueler (fighter). And let me say this: you are quite rude. I neve said that everyone should see it that way, I only explained that when an item is strong on many champs it's the item so you should complain about the item, not the champ but, when a champ gets to abuse an item that is only good or average on others and isn't made for him, that's a problem with the champ. Both jax and trynd fall into the first case since they're strong only with items made for champs like them. It's pretty much common sense, but I still never said it's a rule.
Zedex1 votesI'm sorry but you seem to be mistaken. I am not the original poster of the thread, I didn't ask you your opinion, I was just wondering why there were certain things we're "allowed" to complain about (Ex, Yasuo) and other things we're not allowed to complain about. (Ex, Jax)
Idk how I'm being quite rude, but maybe your opinion on me was clouded due to the fact that you thought I had made this thread. Either way, thats not the case. And if everyone on these forums that loses mid lane to a strong champion (While playing poo champions for the matchup, or are just plain bad?) I am 100% entitled to complain about the state of Jax with the broken rageblade, as I believe my complaints are justified, just like the Yasuo hate bandwagoners believe they are justified.
Valexfor1 votesYep, didn't notice you weren't the one who posted and yes, I thought you were rude because I didn't notice that. I never said the aren't justified, just that if you want to complain, you should at least know what you are saying, Jax devourer is incredibli op, but really, avery champ with devourer is, so complaining just about jax and ignoring the fact that the item itself makes those champ op, doesn't have too much sense. That said, everyone can complain, but you won't be taken seriously if you complain about the wrong things (like about jax op with sated, Aatrox, Xin, WW, Noc, Shyv, any champ that uses it becomes op, so it's better if you say: devourer op than saying x champ is op when everyone isop with it). That said, that's just what I find common sense, anyone's free to think howewer they want and complain about what they want.
Zedex1 votesHonestly I'm not worried about Jax with Sated. Sated has been in the game for awhile and its not really a balance issue, more of a mechanic issue. My problem is Jax with rageblade. All they did was raise the cost this patch, and basically said, we'll look into more this patch, even though we're entirely aware that jax can 3 shot people with it, when literally none of the other "rageblade abusers" or "sated abusers" can do such a thing while also being tanky as hell.
Valexfor1 votesThis is indeed a good concern, Jax is one of those Aatrox like champs: he's not broken per se, but since his it is so binary, just some number changes and he become some unstoppable God of destruction... I think the problem with jax rageblade is the fact that his ults scale both from AD and AP, he gets just so much from rageblade by getting both of them (both damage AND tankyness), they should change his ult, because a champ that gets tanky by going full damage isn't really healthy, even Vlad can't go full damage and still be tanky (he might be more tanky than other mages, but he won't be nearly as tank as a fighter nor a real tank).
Juicyman4 votesJax is being banned accordingly in games, I assume it's because everyone assumes he's going to get a nerf unlike someone like Yasuo who is pretty much immune to getting nerfed.
DIRU1 votesYasuo who is pretty much immune to getting nerfed.
100% at every level ⇒ 78/89/100% effectiveness (at levels 1/7/13)
BASE HEALTH: 512 ⇒ 462 BASE MOVEMENT SPEED: 350 ⇒ 340
SHIELD DURATION: 1.5 seconds ⇒ 1 second
Steel Tempest now scales less effectively with attack speed and has a minimum cast time of 0.13 seconds ⇒ 0.18 seconds
"REMOVED" LOW ON FLOW: Wind Wall no longer passively grants bonus Flow from dashing
Sweeping Blade.png E - Sweeping Blade
BONUS DAMAGE CAP: 100% at 4 stacks ⇒ 50% at 2 stacks
SHIELD DURATION: 2 seconds ⇒ 1.5 seconds
SHIELD (ROUGH VALUES): 60690 ⇒ 60470
SHIELD (REAL VALUES): 60/65/70/75/85/95/110/125/145/170/200/240/290/350/420/500/590/690 ⇒ 60/65/70/75/80/90/100/110/125/140/160/185/215/250/290/340/400/470
PASSIVELY GRANTS FLOW WHEN HE DASHES :: 4/8/12/16/20% ⇒ 3/6/9/12/15%
R - CAST RANGE :: 1300 ⇒ 1200
MOVEMENT TO GENERATE A UNIT OF FLOW :: increased by 15%
List of Yasuo nerfs. You're welcome. He's been out for a bit more than a year.
Dunkrius2g1 votesAnd we only need one more to make Yasuo balanced. Now you are welcome.
DIRU1 votesAnd we only need one more to make Yasuo balanced. Now you are welcome.
If you nerf his damage (except the ult armor pen) he's gonna need an HP buff (His HP got nerfed because they wanted to keep his damage). If you nerf his HP, he's gonna need a buff to his damage (Reason: Shit base HP, shit tankiness) . Maybe if they took away the crit passive and adjusted accordingly, I could see it working
Ultîma3 votesBecause the items that he builds are what's making him ridiculous, not the other way around.
Devourer's always been extremely powerful.
Rageblade is completely broken.
Build those two items on Irelia, Xin, Kayle and you'll notice they're equally as stupid to deal with.
Dunkrius2g1 votesBut hey, Riot here. We will make Rageblade 300g more and make you guys suffer even more. We are still trying to figure out in what way to nerf that shit, but you guys just have to bear with us. In the meantime, start using 
and join in on the fun. Riot, Out.
BluePolarizer3 votesPretty sure Jax is one of the most OP champs with rageblade this season.
KONO RUBICK DA3 votesPretty sure Jax is one of the most OP champs with rageblade this season.
pretty sure it's not his fault but rageblade
Troll for Trump1 votesYeah, it's more rageblade. If you wanna go even deeper, blame devourer's, but the devo champs have either been nerfed or fallen out of favor.
Kynami1 votesIts Rageblade + Gunblade combos on him, Irelia, and Shyvanna that get absolutely crazy. Gives them healing from every little thing they do. Throw a red pot on top with some tank items and they can literally 1v3 all day long. Can't be dueled without at least 4+ quality seconds of CC so you can burn their HP bar down without them being able to drain long enough to kill at least one of your teammates.
Feathermane3 votesAny champion that successfully 1v3s is worth complaining about in my book. Upvoted. Now make a Darius thread.
Left Hook Larry1 votesThis is literally every champion in the game?
Sir Yamazuki1 votes[{quoted}](name=Savage Bear,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ONpElOL7,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2015-11-26T22:02:08.248+0000)
This is literally every champion in the game?
A lot of champions can't even 1v1 others, so how exactly are all of them good at 1v2/1v3ing?
Earl Eulrich3 voteswould be silly to complain about jax when rageblade is the only real issue with him currently (and he still has some weaknesses that can be abused, even with rageblade).
Full Brain2 votesBecause Jax is Jax. Everyone is used to him going through random patches where he is insanely powerful and everyone plays against him enough that they should understand how to counter him.
IronwallJackson2 votesJax being very strong and awful to fight against as an autoattacker is old hat. It's one of the oldest hats. By now, we're used to it. As for the recent resurgence of Jax's dominance, that's something that does get complained about. A lot. But it's mostly an issue with the current state of Guinsoo's Rageblade, so more people complain about it than Jax himself at the moment.
Azuredragon6531 votesNo one complains about him? He's banned more than Yasuo. I see no one banned more often than Jax right now.
Left Hook Larry2 votesYasuo is highest banned right now