Pyke has too much going for him

EmpressOfBeauty·11/3/2018, 7:56:02 PM·40 votes·13,522 views

It isn't fun to lane against Pyke at all for me. I don't understand how a support champion can build full tank items and still be the top damage on his team. His damage, crowd controlling pull and stun that usually spells death unless you are able to get a flash out, his mobility, invisibility, self healing, and an execute that resets that still does alot of damage to champions early on. All while having tank runes and tank items. But dealing damage to him is redundant because he can easily escape and heal it all back up. His roaming is amazing too. I just don't see how a champion designed to be a support is always the one with the most kills in a single game and meanwhile his teammates get fed as well just by touching you if he uses his ult.

I am not saying other supports aren't broken as well but I have never had as much trouble that I have had with him. How do you counter him?? Genuinely asking

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Hayaishi211/3/2018, 8:10:11 PM29 votes

Pyke alone puts too much pressure on his lane opponents. He can solo your ADC pretty much on his own, if you play an immobile bot lane vs pyke you are gonna feed, he just lacks counterplay, the enemy can't do anything to punish pyke it's all about waiting until he messes up.

And let's not even mention how despite being a huge lane bully he doesn't falls off in teamfights. He shines even more.

This champion is just flat out overloaded, has no weaknesses.

DarukongSr11/3/2018, 8:10:12 PM15 votes

Ban him. Garbage op champ.

Kats Pajamas11/3/2018, 8:03:45 PM9 votes

he has a long windup, and unforgiving cooldowns. If you get hit by pyke combo, you deserve to die because he's doing nothing for the next 15 seconds.

He has high armor with low hp, so % pen counters him. ADC's seem to think item 3035 is only an item for Talon, so they are never able to damage Pyke.

You don't like that he heals? item 3033 is what Last Whisper upgrades into.

The problem is ADC itemization. Not Pyke. They never by % pen despite being a damage class, and they never buy HP, despite it being their weakest stat. Both of these stats counter Pyke. zzzz

The thigh guy11/4/2018, 4:54:43 PM7 votes

I still say let him keep everything but his free sustain. Then suddenly you can treat him like Leona, thresh and blitzcrank and make him not want to engage after he get chunked for 90% of his hp.

So tired of getting Pyke down to 20% just to have him walk into fog, drink one potion and come back at 80+% again.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M11/3/2018, 8:54:14 PM4 votes

The changes he's getting next patch (reduced AD from bonus HP, and lethality scaling) are going to kill full tank pyke and pretty much force him into building at least item 3147 item 3142.

W/o being able to build full tank he's gonna be extremely squishy and easy to burst.

Illabethe11/4/2018, 12:10:36 PM3 votes

You counter him with vision, Stormrazor, and seeing his Q chargeup. He's actually an easy to kill target, if you chose the right champions, and don't freely line up easy shots. One bad E = death

5050BS11/4/2018, 5:25:51 PM2 votes

He is my goto support ban. Him and Brand are S+ toxic support