Boards›Gameplay

Ok now let's compare these pros and cons

Soda Popkillski··1 votes·245 views

Well I made a thread asking for Riven's CONS. And these are all the actual cons I got. Including her pros I also got rid of a pro due to it being well argumented against

PROS: -Ridiculously amazing early-game -AD scaling shield/dash at extremely low cooldown. AKA one of the best shields in the whole game -Mobility. One of the best and most versitile in the whole game -Ult that gives both a pretty huge basic attack buff for a long time, and a ridiculously high-damage, high scaling, AOI. -Amazing snowball potential, which works perfectly with her great early-game

CONS: -Little range, mostly. (minor con) -Vournerable to silences and Ryze's snare. -Slightly underwhelming late-game if the player is somehow terrible enough to fail early-game. And not, not fail to snowball. But fail. Even 5/5/5 Riven's are amazingly strong. Can be 1v1 almost anyone even if extremely wrecked early-game as well. -Low attack speed (minor con)

Compare this and say she's balanced.

4 Comments

TehNACHO5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Soda Popkillski,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEAIkoJz,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-04-21T20:34:46.810+0000)

PROS: -Ridiculously amazing early-game -AD scaling shield/dash at extremely low cooldown. AKA one of the best shields in the whole game -Mobility. One of the highest and most versitile in the whole game -Can be 1v1 almost anyone even if extremely wrecked early-game -Ult that gives both a pretty huge basic attack buff for a long time, and a ridiculously high-damage, high scaling, AOI. -Generally absolutely ridiculous damage -Amazing snowball potential, which works perfectly with her great early-game

I'll be honest, some of these sound like total BS.

Her amazing early game is fueled by some of the weakest base values in the entire game.

1v1ing people isn't what makes champions strong in a **team **game, especially considering that this statement is rendered false by virtually all of Riven's counters.

Generally absolutely ridiculous damage is false for reasons pointed out earlier.

Seriously, nothing but stretched truths and some straight up lies here.

Soda Popkillski1 votes

Does that make her early-game bad? No.

So you're saying being able to 1v1 someone is worthless in this game? Woopdiedoo you must be smart. and btw, remember the "most" part. I never said she could 1v1 everyone.

Well then you haven't played nor fought a Riven yet.

Tell me what then.

Sir ArmaMalum3 votes

Okay, seriously? Lets actually make a real pros and cons list here that is UNBIASED.

Pros:

  • Strong level 1 due to her Q's versatility, allowing quick lane advantage.
  • Hyper-efficient AD scaling (the reasoning behind her capacity to snowball)
  • High mobility
  • Resource-less
  • Low cooldowns due to her core item choices

Cons:

  • Insanely item dependent (due to her hyper-scaling)
  • Melee (So is useless while snared, vulnerable to ranged)
  • Purely physical damage (forces her to build armor pen)
  • Little to no sustain w/o lifesteal (so none while being kited/cc'd/attacking high armor targets)
  • Low base damages
  • Incredibly dependent on her Q
  • Vulnerable to silences/dependent on casts

compare THESE pros and cons and tell me she's balanced.

Soda Popkillski1 votes

In fact, no.

PROS: -She's way strong after that mate. I rarely see rivens dominate before they get lvl2-3. -Her ult and her E are seperated into 2 categories. You can't just put them into 1 category to make it seem more underwhelming. Especially since it's her MAIN PRO. -Once again, undervalued. The fact that her high mobility is one of the best in the game shouldn't be undervalued.

CONS: -AKA not that amazing if SOMEHOW set behind. -No snare but Ryze's can actually hit this constant homeguards piece of shit. -This isn't a con. Just not a feature. -This isn't a con. Just not a feature. -But her early-game is still great, so this doesn't even count. -Only early-game due to her high basic-attack damage and low cooldowns late-game. -Yes

You are just forcing out unexcistant cons, pls.

More from Gameplay

3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay764 comments
7,167
votes
3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay156 comments
3,510
votes
UPVOTE FOR URF
Gameplay606 comments
2,440
votes
Yes plz.
Gameplay456 comments
1,721
votes
3 Refunds per season, up vote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay114 comments
1,716
votes
When is ANYONE at riot going to address the awful new player experience?
Gameplay634 comments
1,383
votes

More by Soda Popkillski

Supports still need their own smite-ish style thing
Gameplay47 comments
42
votes
Gnar and his counterplay
Gameplay43 comments
39
votes
You do realize how much you have to do to rebalance the game after nerfing armor?
Gameplay133 comments
29
votes
What about a Maze-ish gamemode?
Community Creations6 comments
25
votes
Add some form of counterplay against vayne for a tank
Gameplay31 comments
20
votes
Veigar's rework was a good thing
Gameplay65 comments
9
votes