Karma RE shield vs Sona W shield

LBmyBB··1 votes·584 views

I was thinking about this and I found a horrible truth. SONA'S SHIELD GIVES MORE THAN KARMA'S RE. That's...rediculous. Look at these stats

Melody: Sona gains an aura for 3 seconds. Allied champions that enter the aura will gain a shield that prevents up to 25/50/75/100/125 (+30% Ability Power) damage within the next 1.5 seconds.

Inspire: Target ally gains a shield, granting 40/45/50/55/60% Movement Speed for 1.5 seconds and absorbing 70/95/120/145/170 (+50% Ability Power) damage for 4 seconds. Mantra Bonus: grants 30/90/150/210 bonus shield and 40% movement speed. Nearby allies gain 30% as much as the initial target shield.

REMEMBER THAT I'M CHECKING MANTRA BONUS, SO IT ONLY GOES UP 4 LEVELS COMPARED TO SONA'S 5 So I did some stat checking and now look here Lvl 1 everyone gets 30 shield power. Sona gives 25 So lvl 2, everyone gets 48. Sona gives 50 Then at level 3, everyone gets 66. Sona gives 75 At level 4, everyone gets 99. Sona gives **100 or 125 **

Most games don't go long enough for Karma to hit lvl 16 as support while Sona's W is a first max.

So how come Sona's NONULTIMATE ability with an extremely short cooldown mid/late game can give more shielding power than Karma's ult? Either rito needs to bump up Karma's shielding power on RE or give the damage back on it. Sona's build ap while Karma's build utility, so the ap ratio doesn't play that much.

10 Comments

TrikzterzArma1 votes

Sona's shield is extremely shitty early game tbh

Lleajy1 votes

Aery helps there.

WzqdQsZwQA1 votes

karma give movement speed with the shield that's the reason i think sona don't have low cd hard cc why not put her ult on a 12sec cd (or 24secs since it's an aoe) too i think And also Sona W cd is 10 secs without ult while Karma E cd is 10 / 9.5 / 9 / 8.5 / 8 i think

LBmyBB1 votes

Well its not when they max W and their R gives them base cd reduc

WzqdQsZwQA1 votes

Ok then the difference between both is 0.5s at lv 11 and 2s at lv 16 for Sona i think

LBmyBB1 votes

Yeah, and it's 6 sec a lvl 5 and the cdr from ult is 10/25/40%

WzqdQsZwQA1 votes

sona cd don't decrease with the skill lvl but only with the ult lvl that means W cd is 6 secs at lv16+ only i think

Primaquarius1 votes

Thats also hella false, check your stats better

jocomotion1 votes

You forgot to mention how Karma’s shield on her main target also scales with 60% of her AP, giving her a 110% AP (50%. AP plus 60% bonus) scaling shield on her primary target, that plus the movespeed scales with the E’s level. I agree that Karma needs major changes but keep your facts in check

Mountain Warden1 votes

Karma definitely doesn’t need a stronger shield. She can dish out way more damage than sona. Hey mantra Q hits like a truck late game and is on a low cool down if you go through your rotations.

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