Why does the game start when we have afk during loading screen ?

Yi Bencheikh·Dec 29, 2015·72 votes·4,924 views

How many times have it happend to you ? you see someone not connected on loading screen , but the game still starts and you end up having an afk whole game ?

how about if the guy who is not connected , doesnt connect in 3 - 5 mins the game doesnt start but goes back to lobby ? playing with / against afks is not fun Understand us riot pls , i dont care if ennemy haivng afk is advantage for us probably most of the community do , playing a game that has afks is not fun .

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Clown ApocalypseDec 29, 201530 votes

Because people still actually play it. 6 seasons and they haven't changed it because people are chumps, scared to get a low priority queue, or banned so they not only suffer 4vs 5's, but force their teammates to suffer them as well. If people just stopped playing games where their teammates didn't connect, this shit would be fixed in the next patch. Instead people cling to that 5% chance of victory, even when its been ten minutes and the guy hasn't connected and you are getting stomped.

First game I played yesterday had 2 people who never connected in the beginning. Which is funny because the game loaded fast as fuck. One guy reconnects about 10 minutes into the game. The other guy never connects. So I pretty much did nothing all game and afked myself. The sad part is these mfers were talkin about report me. Like it's my fault the game started with 3 people. Like playing a 3 vs 5 or 4 vs 5 is supposed to be fun for me. Like there's some sort of reward for playing it out. This is why they haven't fixed it. Because instead of people using noncompliance to force them to fix it, they try to badger you and force you to be positive, happy and helpful in an uneven match that isn't fun. When I see my teammates don't connect I instantly go on tilt. If all 10 people can't be loaded into the game properly, it shouldn't start.

So tired of being in 4 vs 5 matches and somehow I become the bad guy because I quit giving a fuck and just want the match to be over as fast as possible. I mean, do they play 4 vs 5 basketball games when someone twists an ankle? Pro? Collegiate? High School? Men's league? Pickup games? Hell no they don't. People cry so much about toxicity, but personally......this is the most toxic shit in the game to me. Nothing fucks up my mood more than someone not connecting. I can mute some mouthy kid bumpin his gums. Sometimes I use intentional feeders as just an oversized minion to maybe get a kill. But these 4 vs 5's are gonna make me spontaneously combust one of these days. Lol, seriously. That shit gets me hot under the collar.

originary91Dec 29, 20158 votes

[{quoted}](name=Catch A Fade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O9c8QtXc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-29T16:21:43.424+0000)

Because people still actually play it. 6 seasons and they haven't changed it because people are chumps, scared to get a low priority queue, or banned so they not only suffer 4vs 5's, but force their teammates to suffer them as well. If people just stopped playing games where their teammates didn't connect, this shit would be fixed in the next patch. Instead people cling to that 5% chance of victory, even when its been ten minutes and the guy hasn't connected and you are getting stomped.

First game I played yesterday had 2 people who never connected in the beginning. Which is funny because the game loaded fast as fuck. One guy reconnects about 10 minutes into the game. The other guy never connects. So I pretty much did nothing all game and afked myself. The sad part is these mfers were talkin about report me. Like it's my fault the game started with 3 people. Like playing a 3 vs 5 or 4 vs 5 is supposed to be fun for me. Like there's some sort of reward for playing it out. This is why they haven't fixed it. Because instead of people using noncompliance to force them to fix it, they try to badger you and force you to be positive, happy and helpful in an uneven match that isn't fun. When I see my teammates don't connect I instantly go on tilt. If all 10 people can't be loaded into the game properly, it shouldn't start.

So tired of being in 4 vs 5 matches and somehow I become the bad guy because I quit giving a fuck and just want the match to be over as fast as possible. I mean, do they play 4 vs 5 basketball games when someone twists an ankle? Pro? Collegiate? High School? Men's league? Pickup games? Hell no they don't. People cry so much about toxicity, but personally......this is the most toxic shit in the game to me. Nothing fucks up my mood more than someone not connecting. I can mute some mouthy kid bumpin his gums. Sometimes I use intentional feeders as just an oversized minion to maybe get a kill. But these 4 vs 5's are gonna make me spontaneously combust one of these days. Lol, seriously. That shit gets me hot under the collar.

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HahahahyenaDec 30, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Catch A Fade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O9c8QtXc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-29T16:21:43.424+0000)

Because people still actually play it. 6 seasons and they haven't changed it because people are chumps, scared to get a low priority queue, or banned so they not only suffer 4vs 5's, but force their teammates to suffer them as well. If people just stopped playing games where their teammates didn't connect, this shit would be fixed in the next patch. Instead people cling to that 5% chance of victory, even when its been ten minutes and the guy hasn't connected and you are getting stomped.

First game I played yesterday had 2 people who never connected in the beginning. Which is funny because the game loaded fast as fuck. One guy reconnects about 10 minutes into the game. The other guy never connects. So I pretty much did nothing all game and afked myself. The sad part is these mfers were talkin about report me. Like it's my fault the game started with 3 people. Like playing a 3 vs 5 or 4 vs 5 is supposed to be fun for me. Like there's some sort of reward for playing it out. This is why they haven't fixed it. Because instead of people using noncompliance to force them to fix it, they try to badger you and force you to be positive, happy and helpful in an uneven match that isn't fun. When I see my teammates don't connect I instantly go on tilt. If all 10 people can't be loaded into the game properly, it shouldn't start.

So tired of being in 4 vs 5 matches and somehow I become the bad guy because I quit giving a fuck and just want the match to be over as fast as possible. I mean, do they play 4 vs 5 basketball games when someone twists an ankle? Pro? Collegiate? High School? Men's league? Pickup games? Hell no they don't. People cry so much about toxicity, but personally......this is the most toxic shit in the game to me. Nothing fucks up my mood more than someone not connecting. I can mute some mouthy kid bumpin his gums. Sometimes I use intentional feeders as just an oversized minion to maybe get a kill. But these 4 vs 5's are gonna make me spontaneously combust one of these days. Lol, seriously. That shit gets me hot under the collar.

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Troll for TrumpDec 29, 20154 votes

And it's stupid when your game just randomly freezes up and crashes, so, by the time your reconnect, the enemy is 1-2waves ahead(thanks, spawning time), and they are lv2-3. So you're fked, especially if you play something with a weak early game.

Clown ApocalypseDec 30, 20153 votes

Yeah they seem to think oh if he connects in a few minutes the game isn't adversely affected. Nothing like getting to lane right as the enemy hits level 6 just in time to 2 shot you.

BakedLotionDec 29, 20153 votes

[{quoted}](name=Catch A Fade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O9c8QtXc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-29T16:21:43.424+0000)

Because people still actually play it. 6 seasons and they haven't changed it because people are chumps, scared to get a low priority queue, or banned so they not only suffer 4vs 5's, but force their teammates to suffer them as well. If people just stopped playing games where their teammates didn't connect, this shit would be fixed in the next patch. Instead people cling to that 5% chance of victory, even when its been ten minutes and the guy hasn't connected and you are getting stomped.

First game I played yesterday had 2 people who never connected in the beginning. Which is funny because the game loaded fast as fuck. One guy reconnects about 10 minutes into the game. The other guy never connects. So I pretty much did nothing all game and afked myself. The sad part is these mfers were talkin about report me. Like it's my fault the game started with 3 people. Like playing a 3 vs 5 or 4 vs 5 is supposed to be fun for me. Like there's some sort of reward for playing it out. This is why they haven't fixed it. Because instead of people using noncompliance to force them to fix it, they try to badger you and force you to be positive, happy and helpful in an uneven match that isn't fun. When I see my teammates don't connect I instantly go on tilt. If all 10 people can't be loaded into the game properly, it shouldn't start.

So tired of being in 4 vs 5 matches and somehow I become the bad guy because I quit giving a fuck and just want the match to be over as fast as possible. I mean, do they play 4 vs 5 basketball games when someone twists an ankle? Pro? Collegiate? High School? Men's league? Pickup games? Hell no they don't. People cry so much about toxicity, but personally......this is the most toxic shit in the game to me. Nothing fucks up my mood more than someone not connecting. I can mute some mouthy kid bumpin his gums. Sometimes I use intentional feeders as just an oversized minion to maybe get a kill. But these 4 vs 5's are gonna make me spontaneously combust one of these days. Lol, seriously. That shit gets me hot under the collar.

Wow someone speaks their mind on the boards, and they don't get downvoted by riot sheeps for once. I completely agree with you.
Fucking riot is so bad with their systems it's not even funny. They force people to be positive about how they handle things, or get punished...

Clown ApocalypseDec 30, 20155 votes

Trust me, I'm surprised I didn't get downvoted to shit. Most people want this game to be some sort of escape where no one ever gets mad or offended. I'm fine with that idea, although I know it's unattainable. Personally I just want fair games, especially ranked ones. If I get stuck in an unfair game it shouldn't count against me. By fair I mean 5 vs 5 everyone started at the same time. This is attainable. I know people are still going to dc mid game and rage quit and there needs to be systems to deal with that as well, but the game just not starting without 10 is pretty straightforward and a good step in the direction of at least showing concern towards unfair games. Maybe a better loading screen so people can actually tell if the game froze without sitting there for 5 minutes watching it. I've sat at 100% before thinking I was waiting on someone else to load who was stuck at 35% and come to find out it was me. GG Rito.

High5Dec 30, 20152 votes

Leavebuster taught m how to play hard enough in a 4v5 situation to not get reported, but still lose at 20 minutes.

In addition, there's a perception that the community is toxic. I have never seen a reason where constructive negative feedback of a weak teammate is a bad thing. If other players hadn't told me I was doing something wrong, it would've taken me far longer to realize and fix the problem.

We could solve a lot of this if Riot:

Fixed the match making system. DC'd afks are inexcusable. I've also found non-30's playing with 30's to be a gigantic waste of time too.
Made a valid attempt at teaching people to play the game instead of letting every new level 30 reinvent the wheel.

BakedLotionDec 30, 20152 votes

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Trust me, I'm surprised I didn't get downvoted to shit. Most people want this game to be some sort of escape where no one ever gets mad or offended. I'm fine with that idea, although I know it's unattainable. Personally I just want fair games, especially ranked ones. If I get stuck in an unfair game it shouldn't count against me. By fair I mean 5 vs 5 everyone started at the same time. This is attainable. I know people are still going to dc mid game and rage quit and there needs to be systems to deal with that as well, but the game just not starting without 10 is pretty straightforward and a good step in the direction of at least showing concern towards unfair games. Maybe a better loading screen so people can actually tell if the game froze without sitting there for 5 minutes watching it. I've sat at 100% before thinking I was waiting on someone else to load who was stuck at 35% and come to find out it was me. GG Rito.

And it's funny how you're the bad guy for refusing to play the 4v5 They don't blame the leaver, they blame the victim. They don't say "report x leaver" They say "report this guy for leaving"

Midder ScrayDec 30, 20154 votes

I had a really similar situation happen yesterday where one person afk'd at the start, and another was having lag issues so they left the game and never came back, so it was a 3v5 as well. I suffered through it, everyone trying their best to do what they could. I had to cover mid lane since ours dc'd, and I was jg, so obviously I couldn't farm camps or gank for anyone, so we just got absolutely shit on

I told my team if we didn't surrender at 20 that I was just gonna leave because it was a waste of time, and luckily they understood and we surrendered. It's still a major waste of time tho, and it's ridiculous. Why waste even close to 20 minutes when you know you have barely a 5% chance of winning? I do still give it my all when we have a 4v5 and just hope the enemy team has no idea what they're doing. Which has happened before, surprisingly

Qiy4naDec 30, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Catch A Fade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O9c8QtXc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-29T16:21:43.424+0000)

Because people still actually play it. 6 seasons and they haven't changed it because people are chumps, scared to get a low priority queue, or banned so they not only suffer 4vs 5's, but force their teammates to suffer them as well. If people just stopped playing games where their teammates didn't connect, this shit would be fixed in the next patch. Instead people cling to that 5% chance of victory, even when its been ten minutes and the guy hasn't connected and you are getting stomped.

First game I played yesterday had 2 people who never connected in the beginning. Which is funny because the game loaded fast as fuck. One guy reconnects about 10 minutes into the game. The other guy never connects. So I pretty much did nothing all game and afked myself. The sad part is these mfers were talkin about report me. Like it's my fault the game started with 3 people. Like playing a 3 vs 5 or 4 vs 5 is supposed to be fun for me. Like there's some sort of reward for playing it out. This is why they haven't fixed it. Because instead of people using noncompliance to force them to fix it, they try to badger you and force you to be positive, happy and helpful in an uneven match that isn't fun. When I see my teammates don't connect I instantly go on tilt. If all 10 people can't be loaded into the game properly, it shouldn't start.

So tired of being in 4 vs 5 matches and somehow I become the bad guy because I quit giving a fuck and just want the match to be over as fast as possible. I mean, do they play 4 vs 5 basketball games when someone twists an ankle? Pro? Collegiate? High School? Men's league? Pickup games? Hell no they don't. People cry so much about toxicity, but personally......this is the most toxic shit in the game to me. Nothing fucks up my mood more than someone not connecting. I can mute some mouthy kid bumpin his gums. Sometimes I use intentional feeders as just an oversized minion to maybe get a kill. But these 4 vs 5's are gonna make me spontaneously combust one of these days. Lol, seriously. That shit gets me hot under the collar.

I may be impatient af... but i don't want to have to wait that long for a game to TRY and start only for it to have to start again. I just wanna have fun which I can do in a 4v5.

Clown ApocalypseDec 31, 20151 votes

I mean...I can't dictate what you call fun. Playing a game that I feel like I'm almost certainly going to lose from the time it starts just seems like a big waste of time and my attention span. I pretty much only play ranked games. Somebody afks in like an aram or something it's annoying but won't provoke the same anger. You don't lose anything in normals except MMR which you never see or understand or can calculate anyways. I lose twice as many points as I gain. When someone doesn't connect to a game it takes me two wins just to get back where I was. It also screws my MMR over even further so I KEEP getting shitty gains when I win. So yeah for me personally, the game is no longer fun at that point. Trying to progress at something and spending at least 2 hours just to end up right back where I started because someone doesn't connect and my team wants to play a 4 vs 5 turtlefest......sounds like a miserable day on League to me.

Qiy4naJan 2, 20161 votes

Yeah its worse in ranked which is why i'm only s2...I dont play that because it gets too stressful and annoying when u have afks and get shit for lp

Critmaster GarenDec 29, 20154 votes

i assume youre tlking about a disconnect and not an afk.

Yi BencheikhDec 29, 20155 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O9c8QtXc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-12-29T15:01:04.558+0000)

i assume youre tlking about a disconnect and not an afk.

yes dissconecting during loading screen then afk whole game

Jack RakanDec 29, 201511 votes

This is true. If someone never connects during the loading screen then they should treat it like a queue dodge and end the game right there. It hasn't even started. Sure its minorly annoying to get to the loading screen and start over... but its a hell of alot more annoying to deal with 4v5 for 20 minutes or longer.

SerevasDec 29, 20154 votes

I'd be game for that change.

MunchCrunchLunchDec 29, 20153 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O9c8QtXc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-12-29T15:01:04.558+0000)

i assume youre tlking about a disconnect and not an afk.

actually sometimes people are still in the loading screen while the game starts

Ariel the CruelDec 30, 20152 votes

This happened to me a few weeks ago. My ping was still bouncing around so I knew it wasn't frozen, but I got into game about 18 minutes late. Then got smacked by leaver buster after the game.

WTF.

MrSlowDieDec 29, 20154 votes

Yes this happened to me. but not in loading screen, it was before the loading screen aka the pick phase!!

So I played blind pick. I picked shaco. But then there was a blackout and my laptop shut down (My laptop battery is crap). The blackout only last for 5 minutes but I was like "Well I don't think I'll play league today, there's no guarantee that no blackout will occur". And the next day I saw my match history and found that the game started even though I DC in the pickphase!!

and I was like "WHAT !?" I didn't get any ban but I still feel guilty til now

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Clown ApocalypseDec 29, 20154 votes

Had that happen before, I know the feels. I actually think my internet just lost connection after I picked, but the outcome was the same. The client froze and I just said screw it. Low and behold......I left a match. FML. lol

PogChampEleGigglDec 29, 20153 votes

You have to add in somewhere something about it affecting ~~Riot's~~ Tencent's money income and it will get recognition from a red.

kaltenashesDec 29, 20153 votes

i read in surrenderat20 (probably lyte said this in ask.fm) that they want to implement a system that basically ends the game and all players return to the lobby if there's 1 afk in the match (it wont work in post 10 min games, i believe)

riot is really busy, lots of stuff going on there, between champs,lore,systems,etc....

Clown ApocalypseDec 29, 20152 votes

Sounds great. I just don't see why this was a problem that took 5 or 6 seasons to do anything about. The time they spent on making 1 new champion is probably less time than it takes to program the game to just not start if everyone doesn't connect. I'm no computer science major but I think a simple If: Then: line of code might take care of that. If all 10 players aren't connected and stable then disband game. I'm sure i'm oversimplifying it, but not by a whole hell of a lot. They are so worried about the system being abused, they can't see how abusive the system itself is. All the champs, lore, etc isn't going to fix the fact your game isn't working as your customers expect it to. Then again...why fix it....no such thing as an AFK or DC in LCS. Nothing but sunshine, the highest ping possible, and a pause button for when technical difficulties occur.

Lazypeon100Dec 29, 20152 votes

I imagine it is more difficult than it sounds. League has a LOT of players, and riot's original coding is quite honestly, shit. Riot still experiences problems cause of their original coding from time to time, and unexpected bugs and errors can occur dur to even the most simple of changes.

That said, this is something they really should work on. A few days ago I went into a ranked match, was top lane and was getting stomped by the enemy pantheon. Before 5 minutes in, they had TWO people decide to quit. I won and felt bad about it for the panth.

Thankfully, next game I ended up on the same team as that panth and we stomped together.

Clown ApocalypseDec 29, 20151 votes

Yeah I've gotten a few wins I felt dirty about.

kaltenashesDec 29, 20151 votes

well if this problem was huge, they'd work on it asap...

so i suggest we all stop playing league and let riot know we're not returning while this is not fixed

Clown ApocalypseDec 30, 20153 votes

It is a huge problem. With a straightforward solution. It's not like they are being asked to reinvent the wheel. Just don't let the game start until everyone connects or disband it. I mean do they have to hire new people? Create a new department? Problems like this take 5 years to solve? I'm not saying people shouldn't play the game till they fix it. I'm just sayin this shit shoulda been fixed a long time ago. So when they say "it's on the way" I wouldn't hold my breath. I honestly wonder if these people play this game sometimes outside of with other rioters and their friends, because obviously they aren't having the same experiences as the general public.

Ariel the CruelDec 30, 20151 votes

It's not like they are being asked to reinvent the wheel. Just don't let the game start until everyone connects or disband it.

it's actually a rare occurrence. Not super high priority.

2)They kinda do have to re-invent the wheel. Their current code may not have the infrastructure to support that type of system; in which case they have to build it. It's it well known that LoL suffers heavily from spaghetti code; which can make adding these systems even more complicated. Not only are they re-inventing the wheel, they have to fit it into a triangular hole.

Clown ApocalypseDec 30, 20151 votes

It's actually not rare at all. It happens to someone on my team about 1 in 10 games where they don't connect at all. Even more often it happens to someone and they get to lane a few waves late. This isn't even counting the times it happens to the enemy. When the game crashes it kicks you back to the client to reconnect. You ever tried reconnecting to a bot game that was over? "game not found". The client will act funny for a second then kick you out to the main screen. They don't have to reinvent the wheel at all. They can make the game crash for all 10 people and put you back in the main screen. Once upon a time a few seasons ago I used to play games that would randomly end mid game and vanish from my history.

I don't believe for one second that none of the smart people they hired to program their game can program something as simple as a code to make the game not start. Designing a character is far more challenging. Designing new ranked systems is far more challenging. Those things could be considered reinventing the wheel. Finding a way to make the game disband in certain situations should be cake. People design whole games in 5 years. Less time actually. Just sayin. If you think people not connecting in 10-20% of games isn't a problem, then why is repeatedly nerfing or buffing champs that get played in less than 10% of games priority when it affects even smaller percentages of games?

Ariel the CruelDec 31, 20152 votes

If you think people not connecting in 10-20% of games isn't a problem, then why is repeatedly nerfing or buffing champs that get played in less than 10% of games priority when it affects even smaller percentages of games?

Different teams.

In the last month or so, I've seen maybe 2 or 3 non/late-connects (one of them was me). Not connecting is different from afk or D/C [before someone tries to bring them up]. If I average 2 games per day, that would give me ~60 games. So that makes about 5% of my games. Since I don't have better statistics to work with, I can only work off that.

5% of games isn't much. You can make the one-million argument: if a million games are played each day, that means 50 000 are ruined. But it also means 950 000 are unaffected.

People design whole games in 5 years. Less time actually.

Sometimes it's easier to build things from scratch. Especially when you're dealing with someone else's crap. LoL wasn't originally designed to accommodate the phenomenon it is today. That's why so many clones are able to solve it's issues so much easier.

Should probably clarify, I'm not trying to "white knight" Riot. I have no idea what what their production pipeline or spaghetti code looks like. I'm just trying to point out that things are often more complicated that simply saying "do it".

Clown ApocalypseDec 31, 20151 votes

points taken. Everyone has their own dislikes about the game. The 4 vs 5 and afks have been my pet peeve as long as I've been playing. I used to get banned for raging at people who wouldn't surrender. lol. Ahh the good ole days. Cheers!

Synx7Dec 29, 20152 votes

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i read in surrenderat20 (probably lyte said this in ask.fm) that they want to implement a system that basically ends the game and all players return to the lobby if there's 1 afk in the match (it wont work in post 10 min games, i believe)

riot is really busy, lots of stuff going on there, between champs,lore,systems,etc....

He said that 7 months ago. Google it. Riots' usual blatant lies and broken promises. Tribunal? hmm.. why the fuck is that even still there, or talking about it pre-game in loading screen Not gonna happen, they dont give af. Busy? Busy with what, destroying unplayed champs because why not , making skins and LC$? Lore? are u serious on this?

kaltenashesDec 29, 20153 votes

someone's salty

yeah they talk about things they're working on, the fact that they dont tell how far it's from being ready to be released is somewhat disappointing, but in any case we're not their bosses to be demanding schedules from them

i read it in like 4 months ago, i think they're more focused on the new matchmaking system and the other stuff that will come with it in next year

IMO sion's better now, so is poppy, fiora and quinn are a meh rework it doesnt please me, but its not destroyed...

JacobofcourseDec 29, 20152 votes

I would love to see a implementation that doesn't effect a team so hard for someone not connecting. Maybe within the 3-5mins after the game begins, the team is giving the ability to vote to end the game or continue playing. This gives that player time to reconnect if he bug splatted or any other small reason. If the vote is to end, the player that did not connect would be given the typically penalty of a queue dodge. I would add the opposing team would be granted a small about of LP for their trouble.

I am always afraid to punish a player to harsh because not connecting to a game is not their fault. But people could abuse this by queue dodging on purpose during load screen.

Clown ApocalypseDec 29, 20153 votes

or it could simply....just....not...start....I'm not saying punish anyone any more or any less....just don't start the game without all 10 people properly connected. That 5 minutes of waiting I would rather see in the loading screen than a game that's already started. Oh your top laner didn't connect and your jungler is top now? The enemy jungler can now farm your jungle and his with impunity. Then when you connect and your jungler goes to try and get his camps the second time around, you're easy pickins top lane. I never see anyone try to take it easy on the person who just reconnected, and I honestly don't expect them to. It should still treat it as a dodge, just like it would if you lag out during champ select and don't pick a champ. I'd even be fine with it costing the full penalty of a second dodge for waiting so long to try and dodge. If you don't connect you lost the game anyways so that's approximately the same as the dodge penalty. I think the focus should be less on the person with bad internet/pc and more on their teammates that suffer needlessly.

I also don't think the vote thing should even be an option. As it stands right now it's impossible to get people to surrender in clear losses and 4 vs 5's. All it would take is 2 people to keep everyone else stuck in the game, which will pretty much make the rest of the game toxic. Can you imagine being on the team who voted to play it anyways when you're already mad as hell it's a 4 vs 5? I got reported for refusing to play a 3 vs 5 yesterday. 2 vs 5 after I afked. People will still try to make you play it anyways and it just puts us right back where we started. No one should HAVE to play a 4 vs 5, especially one where someone never connected.

Mister firetruckDec 30, 20152 votes

this is actually such a good idea and solution to the afk problem.

Nu63Dec 30, 20152 votes

99.9% of afks in my games happen at the loading screen.

Stained SpearDec 30, 20151 votes

Because we dont want to sit forever.

Occams RaiserDec 30, 20151 votes

i think he means it should time out to the client.

High5Dec 30, 20151 votes

I stopped playing ranked because of the this. Nothing like playing a promotional game 4v5 because someone didn't connect.

MhihnjDec 30, 20151 votes

I once sat through a 1 vs 5. Guess the outcome.

MrElyDec 30, 20151 votes

Obviously the 1 got a pentakill and solo'd baron to win the game.

ZarkkastDec 30, 20151 votes

There needs some actual punishment to afks.

But your suggestion is simply too abusable.

MrElyDec 30, 20151 votes

How? How could someone possibly abuse this?

ZarkkastDec 31, 20151 votes

If you think you're going to lose you can simply disconnect and the game won't start. How is that difficult to understand?

W FlynnDec 31, 20151 votes

This doesn't exactly solve the problem and I don't know if it is intended or just a byproduct of how the game works, if someone doesn't connect to the load screen, the game will take much longer to load giving the person a little time to reconnect. Unfortunately this won't matter at all if someone leaves.

iikariiSep 22, 20171 votes

this happened to me and my excitement for recently joining league got dampened :( Like I couldn't lock in my champion and they did send me an error so idk y i still got afk penalty