It's not fun that the already leading team just takes it freely when 1 of our teammate has died. Then they end the game because this retarded buff lasts 3,5 min.
Where Aspect of the Dragon only lasts 2 min.
In my opinion Baron buff is more superior compared to Elder Dragon buff simply because it last longer, and Baron is a lot easier to slay than Elder Dragon. I would never trade Baron for an Elder.
venomous frost5 votesBaron buff is the ultimate objective to finish games where you have a lead but the enemy turtles.
It's supposed to end games, if you can't contest it you should be losing anyways
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Baron buff is the ultimate objective to finish games where you have a lead but the enemy turtles.
It's supposed to end games, if you can't contest it you should be losing anyways
Then why is Baron easier to kill than Elder Drake?
venomous frost2 votesit's harder to kill.
Dragon deals no damage, but takes long to kill, it's more of a bait for a fight near the dragon, if they don't contest you now have a fighting buff to ace them. It's not meant to suddenly win a losing game, it's more of a "we got all drakes, so now we get rewarded for it and deal way more damage"
Baron dies faster, but deals way more damage + shreds resistances, so it's only an objective you can get when it's 100% safe to take. + You need a tank to kill baron.
Oleandervine1 votesThere are a couple of reasons why you've lost to the Baron buff. When enemy teams are ahead, they take the buff not to win more, but to deny your team the chance to push back. The buff in this case is not winning the game for them, because if they're that far ahead, the game is probably lost to begin with. Secondly, and this is extremely important, but the Baron buff is utterly useless without minions and lane presence. What this means, and it's something I've seen very few teams actually do, is that your team needs to push the minions back HARD. Making opponents with the Baron struggle to get the lanes pushed into your base wastes their time, so the moment the enemy takes the Baron, your team should be clear cutting the lanes to halt progress. I've seen far too many games where there are big hives of minions knocking on the base door when the enemy takes the Baron, and no one clears them until an opponent shows up to rush the lane along. Preemptive measures need to be taken to slow down the Baron buff, and while killing the opponent is the best way to rid it (something which does not happen with thr Elder buff), pushing back helps the best.
