I just played my first game against mord since the rework as support

I Main Swain··3 votes·629 views

sweet glory, i didnt realize that they not only ruined his identity, but made his bot lane power unmatchable. the guy hit lvl 6 at 5 minutes, at level 2 he dealt 500 dmg to our vayne with an e q plus 1 leona passive proc. he got his first pet dragon around 8 minutes or so with 1800 hp, and it dealt a buttload of damage to both of us AND our turret. even late game the ONLY way we were able to shut him down was because he was stupid and sitting in the front lines, they were stupid and didnt peel for him, and we had 3 people on him every fight. the only weakness of his i saw the entire game was his lack of mobility and range, which is really more of a lack of extra strength. i honestly see no reason for Mordekaiser, the iron harbinger of death and destruction, to be helpless alone but op with the help of others. i already saw the rework as unhealthy in terms of theme (and i always thought the dragon was stupid) but now i honestly see very little good brought from it. what's more that i dont get is that they said one of the reasons they were reworking him was because his counterplay was basically just "stay out of range". now, his counterplay is "just hug tower, beg for jungle ganks, and pray to whatever deity you may worship."

disclaimer: if there are atheists among us, you may pray to science

edit: note that i made no comment about what needs done or anything like that, i only put down what happened in the match and my thought process at the time

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Deep Terror Nami5 votes

lol the disclaimer

Anyway, Morde is extremely susceptible to kiting; I suggest focusing him with all your ranged harass during laning, and later trying to stun him when he's going for his second or third Q so that it falls off.

He's quite strong now, but the counterplay is still very much there. The real problem is when a melee thinks Morde is weak and decides it's ok to tank his Q or his allies CC you.

But what do I know? I'm part fish!

Shikigami1 votes

You hit the nail right on the head there buddy.

Marthian1 votes

Anyway, Morde is extremely susceptible to kiting; I suggest focusing him with all your ranged harass during laning, and later trying to stun him when he's going for his second or third Q so that it falls off.

I did just that and harassed a Morde to no end (and his support was afk too), and we could not force him to back ever. He just sustained all of our poke. We even forced him under tower and threatened every chance to farm. Then later, gets a kill on the farmed carry while he had very little damage.

If he goes tanky, he's next to impossible to poke out thanks to his tankiness and sustain.

LVL 5 PORO1 votes

Play lulu into him. She has enough damage to chunk him down.

Marthian1 votes

I played Zyra (which has as much damage if not moreso afaik) into him and that's what happened. Maxed E first, planted seedlings next to him as he got hit, and the seedlings focused them (as much as they could try to.)

LVL 5 PORO1 votes

Well, you should max q on zyra first, always. The first few games i played against him, he crushed my lane. But after trying out different champs, lulu just did exceptionally well. So i'm assuming any support with a lot of poke would be good against him.

Marthian1 votes

Thought so too, but E+seeds seem to have more damage potential. Q+seeds the sapplings may swap targets suddenly, while E having a short range not so much (not to mention the slow and a good E, nothing else is near to hit but the champion)

Not to mention if the carry gets in on it, it can be a potential kill. Her E is harder to land, but more rewarding than Q.

LVL 5 PORO1 votes

Zyra's Q and E plants do the same damage. I almost never use the E plants because they have a shorter range. The range on Q allows them to get off waay more dps, and they are better at zoning than E. Just make sure you drop the seed and Q it when the enemy is under and the plant will always attack them. Also, do this outside the minion wave so you dont steal cs from your adc.

flying banelings3 votes

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disclaimer: if there are atheists among us, you may pray to science

This sentence is amazing thank you!

I Main Swain1 votes
LVL 5 PORO1 votes

OP you're hilarious xD

I Main Swain1 votes

note that i made no comment about what needs done or anything like that, i only put down what happened in the match and my thought process at the time

LVL 5 PORO1 votes

K?

I Main Swain1 votes

ohhhhhh didn't mean to put that as a comment XD

Kouga1 votes

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at level 2 he dealt 500 dmg to our vayne with an e q plus 1 leona passive proc.

500 Damage with E...

(・∧‐)ゞ

Siphon of Destruction Magic Damage: 35 (+ 60% AD) (+ 60% AP)

Hmm.. Did you mean Q?

I Main Swain1 votes

i said e q

flying banelings1 votes

Mord is getting fix don't worry. Although they have no idea what to do as of now . But I have a few ideas: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/J1AitmIX-riot-ideas-to-fix-mord-and-make-every-oneriot-and-mord-mains-happy

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