How do I beat a fed Vayne

TheRakkun·Jun 27, 2015·3 votes·1,472 views

OK so situation botlane fed Vayne and I'm playing as Azir who went even (It wasn't the best game, I hate heimerdinger) and every time a teamfight came around the ended up melting me, if I tried to escape with my E she would often spam roll to get closer to me, if she managed to get close enough to autoattacks she would melt me, if I tried to set up a Q E R combo she would roll, if I had her on the brink of death she would ult invisible and then melt me before I could reposition my soldiers.

My build was

 and I had room for one last item, I planned to go Rylais

WHAT CAN I DO TO BEAT THIS MONSTROSITY.

17 Comments

TheHypeGokuJun 27, 20152 votes

Position behind your team better. Pick up either a pink ward or upgrade red sweeper. Ask one of your teammates, either support,jung, or top, to get Frozen Heart. Also, why in the world do you not have Zhonya's?

TheRakkunJun 27, 20151 votes

Because I feel it's active is pointless as Azir because you need to constantly be in control of your actions , time in statis means you can't attack, reposition for escape, can't ult.

TheHypeGokuJun 27, 20151 votes

Here's the thing. Zhonya's gives you 2.5 seconds to be invulnerable to plan out what you're going to do while cooldowns drop. Buy the Zhonya's. You have to understand that itemization is a HUGE part of the game. Bronze players don't consider how important build path is, you have to take the time to notice that. Zhonya's also gives armor which can help reduce some of the damage from Vayne. Also, if Vayne is trying to kill you in a 5v5 team fight situation and you Zhonya's. Now she's stuck in a situation where, if she didn't plan ahead (which she probably didn't, seeing as it's bronze elo), she has to determine who to attack next. GIven that's she extremely susceptible to CC, the player using Vayne probably doesn't have that luxury of time or the skill level to redirect his/her focus.

K0r0S3nseiJul 29, 20171 votes

Actually bronze players do think about that as apparently I am bronze I will always consider if hour glass will benefit me for example like swain top is there an increadibly fed champion that would one combo me with long cool downs so I can use hour glass to survive

Best Azır NAJun 28, 20152 votes

Some Azir main wisdom:

If Vayne wants to hit you, she has to get in range of your wall. When she's knocked up she can't roll to dodge WEQ. Alternatively you can just stand out of range (Your range is over 1k) and just Q -> Auto -> Auto with those items and she's dead. You can bring a pink if you want to but you don't need it.

That's standard play vs most AD carries. You should crush all of them except Ashe and Varus who can kill you within the duration of their cc.

Never build Rylai on Azir. It's terrible. Zhonya would be much better there. Just practice and you'll be okay!

TheRakkunJun 27, 20151 votes

Why is this getting downvoted, I'm asking for help.

OmiwomJun 27, 20151 votes

Don't suicide with Q E R combo lmao Azir outranges her. With a couple items a Q + aa takes Vayne down to 2/3 health. Unless she had BT and healed it all up.. in which case BT is the issue not Vayne.

TheRakkunJun 27, 20151 votes

I don't think that's an issue as I always get Morello, it's her tumble though...

Razgriz990Jun 27, 20151 votes

Zhonyas, or do the roa build

TheRakkunJun 27, 20151 votes

We don't speak of the RoA build.

Razgriz990Jun 27, 20151 votes

But the Roa build works against insta gib opponents :P I prefer it

IcyPepperJun 27, 20151 votes

she would ult invisible and then melt me before I could reposition my soldiers.

I suggest an upgraded item 3341 or an emergency item 2043 . Or maybe item 3362 and save it just for Vayne.

Vayne is a late-game champion. If fed, she's worst than Graves (who's more likely to get fed as a trade-off). As Azir, outside your ult you don't have a lot of options. You shouldn't be trying to 1v1 Vayne unless you can stay out of her aa range. You'd have a better shot as someone like Lissandra with better cc.

If you really, really need to, consider buying item 3075 . Everyone can afford to have one defensive item, or maybe you can opt for item 3026

TheRakkunJun 27, 20151 votes

Oh god that lissandra was terrible, played as a support and went the least optimal path ways and ended up getting 5 man ganked

IcyPepperJun 27, 20151 votes

I mean in general, not any specific Lissandra for any of your games.

Tbh, I tried but don't find her as a really strong support. She's got decent cc, but... I guess she's better as a laner than a support.

1000angrybeesJun 28, 20151 votes

Jar your tears and sell them on the internet. Earn money for skins. Keep losing, but make monetary gains. Win/lose/win

CrossetteJun 28, 20151 votes

Vayne always gets fed. There is no beating Vayne. Fuck Vayne. xD

K0r0S3nseiJul 29, 20171 votes

Tip you don't beat a fed vayne you just ff especially if your bot lane gives her first blood and then 3 more kills so that's just dumb it was just the cait have no brain the support was actually decent whereas I was stomping my lane as gnar frozen mallet randuins omen thornmail I use my hop to get on her boom ult popped Q flash and she was gone she suddenly is behind me with no hop I had no escape and yet vayne solo kills me in 4 shots this was starts with a static shiv prove she had 60% crib and every one of the 4 were crits never lucky then she gets a penta kill before 30 mins the first blood was given at 5 mins this cost me my bronze 2 I can get out of bronze or I should because I have a silver account with a positive win rate but bronze. Bronze is the world of brain dead adc the mid lane appears to not have a keyboard and the jungle tower dives with 100 health no joke. Then there's me I will almost always stomp lane with a renekton perma ban and gnar or morde like I am the only constant but I get the most brain dead team mates and they don't know that because you have fed the Leblanc 3 kills you can't one v one her so stop fighting her in lane so she finishes you off under tower