This Shaco minor rework means a lower skill cap for him.

Shac Norris·10/29/2016, 11:50:10 AM·8 votes·858 views

His ult spawning a box triangle.. really Riot? I waited half a year for this and this is what we get?

Mained AP Shaco when i played, but now it's not worth it anymore since just playing him will seem like you're riding the OP train.

Also Sweeper trinket. We wanted counterplay to it, you clearly listened, because now we barely get to be invisible, so no chance of being spotted by it! Yay!

Also, nothing on his 1 shottable boxes, YAY!

I'll wait and see if they change anything, this is ridiculous. I've waited SO LONG for a Shaco rework, and this is the best they could come up with... I guess they missed the big threads people made about his problems, and how they should be fixed.

Typical Riot ignoring everything and going on with what THEY think is right.

32 Comments

Shadòw10/29/2016, 11:57:03 AM1 votes

can you say me when Shaco ever had a skillcap?

Bardful10/30/2016, 9:46:48 AM1 votes

wait a couple things.

  1. he will be getting a full vgu in the future so this rework doesn't matter much.
  2. His q now lasts longer but you will have to max it first to get that. (4.5 sec from 3.5 sec)
  3. I am glad his ult still shoots knives because it makes him close to jhin which I would like to see put into lore.
  4. His boxes scale with level so early game they can easily be taken down but later on they are tougher than before.
  5. How does any of this make him easier? He now can place boxes while in stealth which gives more options and his early ganks are weak so you have to get creative.
Astôlfo11/2/2016, 1:23:17 PM1 votes

The changes are retarded and should be reverted.

EcchiOtakuTM11/2/2016, 3:52:45 PM1 votes

AP-shaco wise they fixed majority of it aside from trap detection things, they actually buffed duskblade ridiculously(disables traps/wards for 8 seconds then goes on CD)

I'm really questioning the duskblade buff, control wards had a low radius and was dealable. While sweeper lens could be baited out since it didn't trigger automatically, but duskblade? This duskblade change was dam retarded and I hope they nerf it before release.

Aside from trap detection I can see what you mean by lowering skillcap cause back attacks are more clear but less needed for ap, boxes become much easier to chain CC and get use with due to HP increase, E pretty much outmatches live's E aside from backhit's which is compensated through ulti.

But I would say it increased the skillcap cause Q CD is reduced through backattacks now which AP shaco won't do unless going All-in.

I pretty much like new AP shaco though, don't see an issue with it rework-wise.

Only real thing to watch for is if they'll actually fix duskblade's auto trap disable cause at least there's baiting red trinket but duskblade nothing can be done to counterplay it and it's CD isn't really long.