I honestly felt like what is the reasoning behind the buff to the super minions on the pbe, just now they are even tankier and cause more damage doesn't that seem a bit extreme. Grant its pbe and everything is subject to change but my god these are a huge concern i have. They already do a decent amount of damage and are tanky enough as it is
brad7 votesthat is a massive fucking nerf
the super minion is exactly the same, it has the same armor, same mr, and if the math is correct, the same damage
but normal minions dont get that aura, making them stronger as well
although its a pretty necessary nerf, because superminion aura + baron minions are almost impossible to kill
Meanie402 votesI have to agree, this is a gigantic nerf if you understand how super minions currently work.
Bears Dont Care3 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi Im Brad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NrEGWaF3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-05-04T20:07:07.615+0000)
that is a massive fucking nerf
No...it isnt. It was stated the aura is bugged and not affecting normal minions properly.
N3mO063 votesWith this buff and the last nerf to middle tower, they want to reduce the the length of matches.
Meanie402 votesThis isn't a buff. Read it carefully.
The super minion in each wave will have the EXACT same stats as in 5.8.
The minions it buffs in 5.8 will now have 70 less armor/mr and less damage.
AMYS GRAVE2 votesThat's a bug, read the notes again.
Meanie401 votesAs I posted below, the post was made when the wording on the page was different.
Please take into consideration timestamps and the fact that webpages can be changed before criticizing others for what you perceive to be an incorrect comment based on the current status of a webpage or post.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesi know, just giving an fyi...
Drukyul2 votesYeah, super minions are already extremely rough to deal with. One inhibitor down is a huge issue to come back from. They don't need a buff. If they want to shorten the games they should be looking at ways that don't unnecessarily benefit lifestealing AD champs yet again.
AMYS GRAVE2 votesYeah, these super minion buffs are pretty hefty, i hope they don't make it to live. I like comeback games and this would make that much harder to do.
EDIT: Oh, i see they added the aura removal to the PBE notes, never mind then....
EDIT: This is why we shouldn't post on wip posts. moobeat changed it again... we should wait a few hours to have this discussion.
Jungle Lux God2 votesIf you look closer at the changes, it is a nerf instead of a buff.
On live, a super minion will buff the entire wave it is in by apparently with 70% increased damage and +70 armor and magic resistance with an aura.
The PBE changes do the following:
The Super Minion's armor and magic resistance were both increased by 70, which is exactly the amount of resistances it had before when it had the aura.
The Super Minion's damage was increased to 306 from 180, which is a 70% increase (180 * .70 = 126, 180 + 126 = 306).
The Super Minion is the same, but the other minions that are with it are nerfed pretty hard.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesThe other minions losing the aura was a bug, read the post again for details...
Jungle Lux God1 votesI just did. Apparently it was a bug, and assuming the bug wasn't there there shouldn't be any mechanical changes.
TauNoob12 votesYou guys might wanna read it again "Super Minions no longer benefit from their own Minion Commander buff" "THEIR OWN BUFF". It still applies to every other minion in the wave with them. There really is no change at all.
Meanie401 votesYou might want to consider that the wording was different when some of us posted our comments.
EDIT: The linked context notes that super minions now do not benefit from ANY super minion buff, so it is a slight nerf now that they can't buff each other.
Migrañaboy1 votesI welcome the buffs, Rito has been braindead promoting comebacks situations. I find it odd they are buffing them this much.
Erockandroll1 votesI think super minions will have a greater impact. I think the Damage boost Over Compensates the lost of the buff. For some reason, I didn't think they got their own buff, but could get the buff from another super. So I would guess that supers are more powerful individually than they use to be.
djjomon1 votesLooks like this was clarified since OP posted it. So then, here's my question: does a super's aura buff another super, or not?
arcinex1 votesSuper minions are annoying as it is >.>
Budupops1 votesit doesnt effect anything next time read the full post
Sleeping Victor1 votesBuff the super minions? It can eat a support by itself now. The squishy massacre... 
Beddlam1 votesThis is not a change, in a practical sense. It changes how the underlying numbers are calculated, but not what they will be. This change does not change the game in any way. Can you people not read?
