If the 'assassin rework' were applied to other champions....

dakota saturn·Jan 9, 2017·4 votes·958 views

If the assassin rework theme of adding clunkiness and delays were applied to other champs -

Lee sin - now after landing Q, must wait 2 seconds before able to dash.

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Zero Skill TankJan 9, 20171 votes

Other champions all have this "clunkyness" in the first place. Before reworks most assassins could cast their whole kit before normal champion finished their first cast time.

PennsJan 9, 20174 votes

Meanwhile most mages can cast all their damage spells at once, Riven can r-e then w-q in under a second, and so on lel

YasuicideJan 9, 20172 votes

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Asayake 5150glowJan 9, 20172 votes

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If you play Yasuo vs Riven:

Yasuo R.I.P

Stun begin - Stun end

The stun lasts for .75 fking seconds, literally one of the shortest in the game. Riven has the inherent advantage, but Yasuo can easily outplay Riven due to her being immobile as fuck if she actually wants to fight you. While you can use all your dashes on the minions and still be at 100% damage, hell you get more damage if you charge a tornado first.

That's not salt, that's telling you how to outplay people as Yasuo. Kite them around minions, ult them, and you'll win anything.

YasuicideJan 9, 20171 votes

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Asayake 5150glowJan 9, 20171 votes

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With the Q knock up and W stun it's a 1.25 sec stun. But after her Q she will first wait 0.25 second because you're not able to do anything in this time. Her Stuns(and knock ups) are canceling your autoattacks, your Q and your E.

If you dash into minions she cannot follow you but she will just block the way between you and the tower.

If you fight her without minions she will win

If you fight her in a minion wave the minions will damage you hard

If you want to trade her and go back after she will block the way and W or E + W you dealing more damage than you to her. If you just stay where you are she will come for you with her Q

If you want to land your Q she will dodge it with E and if you want to EQ her she will stun you during your dash.

The Ult she will cast when you're stunned

http://lolcounter.com/tips/riven/yasuo

Yes, and your Q cancels her Q's. Save it for her third Q, she can't E during it and it will stop her knock up.

Dafuk does that mean? So what if she blocks the way between you and the tower? Why do you want to go to your tower or hers?

Yes.

Only early game.

Then dodge it. If she wastes her Q's gapclosing, just fight her, you'll outdamage her.

Then throw it when she has no dashes up or is in the middle of a dash. Such as during her third Q.

Even if she knocks you up right before your tornado hits, you can still ult.

YasuicideJan 10, 20171 votes

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Asayake 5150glowJan 10, 20171 votes

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A good riven won't use Q on me when I have the tornado ready. And in early game I kill her sometimes but at lvl 3+ there is no way for me. She counters all of my abilities and deals more damage to me then I do to heir.

She has 2 stuns that cancel my Q and my E and don't let me cast the W

Her W avoids me using my EQ on her

With her E she can dodge my tornado Q

Her Ult is almost impossible to dodge with my E

Then wtf does she do for 10 seconds? Auto attack? You do more damage with your autos.

Get Ninja Tabi, not Zerkers.

You can juke her stuns, her W with mind games and her third Q has a big delay which is easily dodged by e'ing through nearby minions.

Then don't use it?

Any dash can dodge your tornado, don't bitch that you can't land your skillshots.

You don't need to.

YasuicideJan 10, 20171 votes

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Asayake 5150glowJan 10, 20171 votes

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Lol she has empowered autoattacks and deals way more dmage with them as I do(early&midgame)

I always buy ninjas against her, she has lower armor and health aswell but still gets just damage from me like when she has 100 armor

I can't juke her W because it is an instant abbility. Maybe with flash when I'm lucky

Her Q is only possible to dodge if you use E before she casts her 3rd Q. If not then she will hit you even she didn't hit you virtual...

Clearly you don't know anything about Riven. Her autos are much weaker than yours, due to much lower attack speed(all game, early levels are when she is weakest against you, late game she has 0 attack speed items and you do have some, although builds may vary).

Good. Tabi counter you, you're gonna feel a big damage drop off when she gets them, so don't try to fight her right as she gets them.

Like I said, mind game her into missing it.

Except no, because 1) it's a fairly slow dash (just short), 2) it's short and if you leave it's range it won't hit you and she doesn't get to use the auto attack reset portion, and 3) the third Q deals damage and knocks you up when she lands, and takes a set amount of time no matter how much distance she covered and is the easiest to dodge because it's so telegraphed. It is larger, though, but an E to a minion in the general direction of away from her will make it miss, just wait for her to cast it before dashing or else she will follow you with the dash and manybe hit you.

Asayake 5150glowJan 9, 20172 votes