Riven's Q needs to proc on hit effects OR lifesteal.

Bagguette·Jun 22, 2016·2 votes·1,280 views

It's pretty damn dumb since almost every melee champ characters abilities proc lifesteal or they have some sort of sustain in their kit. Riven has 0 Sustain in her kit which could lead to you trading almost equally with , then him using his stupid passive to come back to lane full health or just farm. Or even worse, & who can heal off a stupid AOE circle. I Suggest making the first 2 hits proc lifesteal if you have a lifesteal item and the 3rd hit to do its normal knockup damage without the lifesteal. This is a really fair change and would probably make her move viable, and give her some good sustain rather than buying 3 health pots. Its way better than the edge mechanic, and will probably make her better at fighting because he counters her in almost every way even though riven requires more skill...

31 Comments

Rustling BushJun 22, 201610 votes

0 sustain?

is that giant ass shield you can have up every 5 seconds not enough sustain for you?

if you want sustain so badly buy a item 3812 like Pantheon or other top laners that don't have innate sustain, riven doesn't need everything.

BagguetteJun 22, 20161 votes

Not against garen and his damage reduction, SILENCE that fucks your combo ALL the way up, and execution spell that is POINT AND CLICK

Rustling BushJun 22, 20165 votes

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Not against garen and his damage reduction, SILENCE that fucks your combo ALL the way up, and execution spell that is POINT AND CLICK

bohoo riven can't straight up beat everyone, if you have problem with garen pick someone that can beat him easily.

BagguetteJun 23, 20161 votes

There should not BE champions that flat out beat other champions. Imagine if they did that in fighting games, it would be just stupid.

SaltyKrackaJun 23, 20163 votes

You're not terribly familiar with fighting games, are you?

zlumpyJun 23, 20161 votes

Then teemo would never see the light of day in anything. Soke champs just have a job to counter others.

RalanrJun 22, 20161 votes

Counters her for a reason.

DeathBurstJun 23, 20162 votes

Yeah, Garen is Riven's hard-counter, deal with it. That doesn't mean Riven need pseudo-life steal on her abilities. Or does Garen need a blink on his Q like Ekko, because Quinn hard-counters him?

ShahamutJun 22, 20162 votes

This. That huge AD scaling Shield can shrug off soooooo much damage if you use it correctly. So many missed outplays under tower because of that stupid shield.

As in, Riven got away even though she dove and I managed to outplay/make her stay too long. Barely still kills me, and escapes while using that shield to soak the last tower shot.

Good Riven players are a pain.

BagguetteJun 23, 20161 votes

There is nothing more fucking satifying when that last shot is coming your way and you have the shield that saves you're ass

zlumpyJun 23, 20161 votes

The jungle showing up and killing her with smite after that is probably more satisfying.

BagguetteJun 23, 20161 votes

Good luck catching a riven with flash And Q after using her E to dash away lol and a low health riven can easily kill the jungler (because junglers are not suppost to 1v1 laners) lol

SincarnationJun 22, 20161 votes

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0 sustain?

is that giant ass shield you can have up every 5 seconds not enough sustain for you? you want sustain so badly buy a

Basically this ^ But hey I mean if her Q applied on-hit effects it would be considered an auto, have fun getting through the lane when just knicking someone with Q draws creep aggro and you get destroyed

RalanrJun 22, 20164 votes

Garen counters Riven.

Live with it.

Lmao Get MoonedJun 22, 20163 votes

As a person who was once a Riven main, this is dumb.

BagguetteJun 22, 20162 votes

How so, its only the first 2 hits of the combo. its nothing major and it could probably scale late game. like a passive.

BagguetteJun 22, 20162 votes

Plus your bronze you are not a riven main.. I'm silver and still learning her get real.

Onion the FriedJun 23, 20162 votes

Silver is a white-stained bronze

BagguetteJun 23, 20161 votes

He said hes a riven main with only 4 plays as her and in brozne, i never said i was a god.

DrDiagaJun 23, 20161 votes

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He said hes a riven main with only 4 plays as her and in brozne, i never said i was a god.

Rank has nothing to do with the argument. And he might consider himself a Riven "main" because he has played her a ton and is very familiar with her but currently doesn't play her much because she isn't strong right now

BagguetteJun 23, 20161 votes

Riven is strong but alot of people just pick her up and play her which is why her win rate is bad. I got to silver as her when i won my first 10 games and i probably wouldve been higher my team in 2 of those games didn't throw

Lmao Get MoonedJun 22, 20166 votes

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How so, its only the first 2 hits of the combo. its nothing major and it could probably scale late game. like a passive.

it's not about the actual lifesteal of ability proc, its the fact that she has a shield, a stun, and a knockup. making her heal and proc while doing all these things would make her impossible to duel.

SithesisLordJun 22, 20162 votes

So, lemme understand that last sentence. Just because Garen is easier than Riven, he shouldn´t counter her? I´m having trouble with that logic. Just a bit.

As for sustain, Riven has an AD scalling shield.

An AD scalling shield. She goes mostly damage items and CDR, which means her shield is big, and is up more often than not.

On the Garen issue, it´s called TP bot and grab a double kill.