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Ronin Tamos·11/9/2016, 9:10:23 AM·1 votes·851 views

Basically you plan to ruin ranked the ranked experience forever for 3/4 - man premades ,if not enough players use Flex Queue, by making it 5 man only.

Further you give egocentric, narrowminded and intolerant players their Queue back just because they acted like spoiled children, that got something taken away from, throughout the last season?

Of course the vocal part of the boards who does nothing but acting in a hive - minded fashion, would upvote every thread who bashed the DQ and his users while positive reactions or logical explanations why DQ is not even that bad would never get the same ammount of approval.

Its the same thing with the weekly changing "X Champions Kit is toxic for this game, Rito pls change this and that mimimimi" In threads like this you will very often downvotes on neutral or opposing viewpoints.

Now here comes the thing: DQ was not perfect. There was more Boosting and therefore a devaluation of one's personal achievements. And dont forget the hurt pride of all these poor SQ only players when they could be not proud of climbing to Rank X, because Premades boost each other and therefore devalue the Rank. Yeah Solo Players who did nothing but disregard the premade groups that were nice and trying to win the game. As usual only the bad impressions last. May it be "Boosted Monkeys ruining my Diamond Promos - Thank you Rito" " Got harassed by X Premade in Champ Select " " X Premades are not taking Ranked serious " " 5 man premade stole my lunch box " See it? You get the urge to upvote these catchy little threads right? Cause scandals sale better then truth.

No one wants to read about the data that Boosting and Toxicity are either on an all time low or not as common as you perceive it. It happened once so it must happen everywhere right?

Now here to the part that you might never read cause i might have offended you enough further up, that you already left (and dont forget the downvote)

A Queue for all could be a thing. Really, not kidding. Some ideas were already implemented by Riot :

  • Stand on your own feet: No Premades in higher elos

  • Mirror, Mirror on the wall: Premades getting matched against Premades to balance Chances of winning

  • That never happened: Remake + LP - loss for premades that got an AFK

Some ideas are implemented this season :

  • no longer Out of place: No 4 man premades

Other ideas like Badges were nice but not so well received. It should be something shinier. SQ players seem to like to rub it into everyones face that they are Solo so maybe sth you can flash in game like Champ Mastery or a jacket at season end. "I climbed solo to Bronze 4", written on the backside.

Ideas that might help :

  • Slowing us down: Less LP gains if you climb with a premade.

  • Its slippery on the top: Faster Decay in challenger: Less smurfs taking away Ranks and incentive to play with main accounts

  • I cant reach out to you: Premades have to be in a very close Division. No cross Tier premades ; except B1-S5 / S1-G5 and maybe G1-P5

And the most important thing: Data. It would be really nice if Riot would publish every now and then how the real data looks like regarding ranked play, Toxicity and Matchmaking.

Only with the real data and a steady provivding with Information the truth can be spread and not the hate - filled bias of certain people.

3 Comments

Your Real Mom11/9/2016, 9:29:48 AM2 votes

As someone who had to play their promo to gold at almost last minute due to losing the last game in my first series to a booster on the enemy team I can assure you that it happens more than you think. It's not even so much the premades that irritate me it's the ones who pay others to play on their account for them to get them to X rank. Although I was never a fan of dynamic queue. Not in season 1 and not now. I feel that teams should be playing against other teams. Solo queue players are put at an extreme disadvantage because we are not playing ranked to piggy pack on our friend's backs and have them carry us. We're playing ranked for ourselves and to improve ourselves.

Jax Cramer11/9/2016, 11:06:29 AM2 votes

No one cares about 3 or 4 man premades...you have ruined enough games for me in Season 6. I will be trolling those premades in Flex Queue.

SICKNÈSS11/9/2016, 11:20:33 AM1 votes

I don't know what kind of data you think you have access to, but you're straight up delusional if you think toxicity was in a all-time low due to DQ. Almost every premade group would flame the non-grouped players, when the smallest mistakes occurred. Doesn't matter who's fault it was, doesn't even matter if it was anyone's fault at all. They would just flame to feel better in general and being in a group means less people will flame them back and they feel great about it. It's a bully syndrome, basically. Also, communication's broken as fk in LoL. If you have a group of premades on VOIP and then some randoms vs them = the premades have HUGE advantage. Doesn't mean they always win, individual level still matters a lot (especially in low elo). But the simple fact is, no matter the result of the game, the premade group always had a huge advantage that broke the balance of Ranked Play. Dynamic Queue ruined the experience for both the premades' teammates and the opposing team. I do agree with the hive-minded thinking - people don't understand the game very well and they follow the simplest of logic that is presented to them. However, the rest of your post is ....questionable at best.