Riot is buffing ADC

BestPudgeNA··3 votes·1,321 views

Here is the TL:DR version of the upcoming ADC changes

-We the Changes aren't coming in 8.10 like we were told, 8.11 if we are lucky. -Base AD is going down for Marksman but But scaling is going up resulting in marksman still being ahead by smaller amounts in the lane phase and then even further ahead in the mid and late game -IE is gonna have True damage component with reduced crit numbers. You're still gonna die in less then 2 seconds worth of auto attacks but they will now shred tanks/fighters quicker your item 3157 item 3047 aren't gonna help at all. -LW is now flat pen along with the new item covered later front loaded Marksman like Draven, MF and non bot lane marksman like Kindred and Quinn will now assassinate you quicker

  • They are pushing back the time marksman "turn on" by upping Zeal item cost by ??? yet at the same time the changes are geared at giving ADC better build paths ultimately they might "turn on" quicker. The goal in solo Q will still be mid/JG camp bot hope your ADC isn't a monkey. One ADC is still going to be "Turning on" and you need to make sure it's yours.
  • A new ADC item called Stormrazor that is going to a better first item then IE was and will work with full IE builds and be better use of inventory space then a Zeal item late -Buffs to Maw making it more likely ADC friendly Same for GA
  • Bork is gonna cost 200g less -No talk of Changing items like item 3504 item 3050 or Abilities like Janna shield to be buffs more friendly to all champion types rather then just buffs for our right clicking overlords
  • AD Assassins especially the fun ones to play against that offer lots of counterplay chances like Kha and Shaco are likely to benefit from these changes.

Actual nerfs

Fleetfootwork is being nerfed in the sustain department

9 Comments

chipndip16 votes

Actually drivel-quality post.

Quil Evrything1 votes

translation: bronze and silver are going to be even more botland driven.

the changes mean if you cant farm really, REALLY well as adc.. you're going to be hella behind. which means massive feeding botlane. Or should I say, even MORe feeding botlane.

So, bronze and silver games are then going to be won either by smurfs, or the better jungler feeding botlane. .. except that they're nerfing jungler as well

Hmm...

I guess thats a sneaky backwards way of making midlane relevant again.

first midlaner to win lane and roam bot, wins game for team.

Colte1 votes

i love kindred and quinn ;3 i don't like the whole true damage crap on ie i hope this is a joke [slayer-jinx-unamused]

LilxPaprika1 votes

I actually came here rooting for you. But reading the changes it sound like riot is doing the right thing for once

The problem with ADCs was mostly % armor pen was OP and last whisper was the main issue.

Not sure about the rest. But time will tell. But ya the % armor pen was my main beef with ADCs Rammus malphite and such will stand a real chance.

Heroes like garen and alistar might feel a little hurt by true dmg though shouldn't be a big deal. item 3193 will also find a bit more of a match in wake of true damage. Overall this should get people to put a little more thought into what equipment to build.

Azadethe1 votes

Flat Armor pen means Adcs will take amplified damage against each others, and amplified damage vs mages. Caitlyn will hit some 4000 damage crits.

LilxPaprika1 votes

remember back when we had flat dmg pen mark runes and flat damage, rarely did adcs ever equip flat armor pen. It was better on bruisers with high base physical damage abilities. flat armor pen won't feel much different than more scaling damage. if there's an issue with caitlyn, thats another story. it's not an item problem.

it's not like adcs have been building much armor anyways. plus teams nowadays are pretty evenly split between ap and ad. if you must then stack some armor and you will find it will actually pay off, guardian angel + tabis is a great option here. perhaps if they added one more armor and physical damage item it could help, though it would need to give adcs something on par with what GA has to offer. or try different keystones, I know more will be added who knows maybe they will help.

Azadethe1 votes

They also didn't have item 3147 item 3814 item 3142 item 3036 in their current incarnations or at all to stack more lethality.

The difference is..... with these items + item 3071 , just building the 2 popular ones + BC will result in negative armor on almost all champs BUT tanks. If an adc builds Tabis + GA, they will still be negative 40 Armor. That never happened before. Until now, it's been perhaps a reduction to 17-27 Armor.

They also didn't have Transcendence/CDR builds and Gathering Storm to bump up the base damage.

LilxPaprika1 votes

I can see black cleaver being a problem, I've always found it quite strong. maybe it could do less % armor pen if the target has a low amount to begin with. I realize it already scales better vs armor stackers. i'd make it even more oriented towards them by making it less oriented towards targets with low armor. Not by much maybe 10% less than current.

they might not need tabis either since GA is getting more armor.

getting either tabis or GA could at the very least pretty much mitigate the armor pen/cancel it out.

saltran1 votes

Quality shitpost

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