"He isnt overtuned"

Settsation·10/10/2019, 12:22:21 AM·3 votes·1,601 views

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This is Masters+ by the way. 62.50% with a 10.8% ban rate. 13.2% pickrate. People are realizing that Garen is extremely broken with the correct build at the moment, due to his E's new scaling. Yes, it no longer scales off AD, but building even one AS (most of which are also crit items, mind you) leads to unbeatable levels of damage. Tri-force, Deaths Dance, Phantom Dancer. With these three items, Garen becomes pretty much an unstoppable lawnmower of absolute carnage. Pull back on the AS scaling and keep the rest of the buffs, that would put him at a perfect point. He just does way too much damage now to even be warranted as a 'juggernaut'.

But people argue: "You can just kite him out!" Some champions yes, absolutely. But for a vast majority who rely on front line to help peel for the damage-dealing backline, it's just not possible most of the time. No matter how tanky you are, you cant survive an instant Conqueror prock crit-filled death spin of sustaining torture. All a Garen needs to do is run in, kill any front-line, back out, go back in after his free warmogs kicks in. It's insanity.

20 Comments

MrFawknSunshine10/10/2019, 1:10:14 AM4 votes

where did you get your stats from?

and if its u.gg for masters + its only 144 games for that sample size.

Anime Fizz10/10/2019, 1:44:02 AM3 votes

Holy shit boards actually defending the monstruosity that is garen right now

Lol, just Lol.

But then again, the same ppl also defended the 56% wr mordekaiser.

Mihalikb10/10/2019, 2:54:43 AM3 votes

Question.

What "other buffs"?

Q is basically the same, the animation is now a bit faster.

W has been gutted in every imaginable way. Passive MR/Armor has been reduced by 40%, and the damage reduction that used to reduce all incoming damage by 60% for 0.75 has been turned into a tiny 10% HP shield for 0.75. The shield is tiny and lasts for no time all.

The R ult change can be considered a buff, if you were going against people stacking MR. Otherwise its damage ratios hace been reduced.

The passive is now slightly better under lvl11 but is completely useless past. Takes too long to active and heals for peanuts.

Whats happening is that you got used to just being able to sit in his spin. Now if he spins on you it actually hurts.

Keiaga10/10/2019, 1:38:37 AM2 votes

Lol. Masters+ is such a massive skill difference compared to anyone below diamond that it's useless information to the other 97.5% of the player base

xDogMeatx10/10/2019, 12:26:19 AM2 votes

awesome freelo conqueror garen.

True Garen10/10/2019, 3:31:17 AM2 votes

He is overtuned. Captain Gameplay stated that he was intentionally releasing re-work Garen overtuned.

Juice10/10/2019, 12:30:41 AM2 votes

Masters + is extremely low sample size.

A couple of good players trying Garen and counterpicking can skew the win rate hard.

Garen is fine and with that build he gets 1 shot

Crispy0Snake10/10/2019, 12:40:56 AM2 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/k3LjcEqs-trinityghostblade-garen-buffs

I called it, attack speed scaling on his E makes him build Trinity, which was already super strong on him, and he can't be one shot if he builds item 3053