Hello, iv been mainin vayne for about, 2-3 years now, and id love for her to get nerfed ples.

lil koda··21 votes·1,279 views

right now the reason vayne is strong, is because of her ability to just buy IE and shiv and come out of invis and 2 shot people. this isnt what vayne should be in regards to an adc, i miss seeing bork built on her, where you actually had to play smart to beat your opponents, kiting, condemn flashing, w/e you can think of to actually win a fight, not press R and Q and obliterate the enemies fucking face off. but how do you nerf this exactly? could we try making her q not be able to crit? well the problem with that is then you cant fight adc's or assasins, youll most likely get obliterated by the enemy adc who built IE statik, or the assasins who comes from invis and makes you go bye bye, could we just nerf crit in general? i realize this isnt a "vayne nerf" but right now crit is so overtuned and such an rng stat it can break any adc who decides to go ie, statik, or IE hurricane cough cough twitch cough cough. nerfing crit so that it would do 50% more dmg then make ie give 50% increased crit so that you get double dmg after IE, please im tired of picking vayne going bork and getting shit on because im going the far inferior build. i want my vayne back :(

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Brain Errör 4043 votes

For a Vayne main, how could you NOT realize her Q doesn't crit at the moment? Liar.

DJMason881 votes

Because it doesn't...

NEW TRIP NOT CRIT Bonus damage is no longer increased when the attack critically strikes

From 7.19 patch notes.

Edit: Can't read apparently...

Brain Errör 4041 votes

I just said it doesn't. What are you even quoting to me? Comprehension pls.

DJMason881 votes

Woops, my bad.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

I don't think it's necessarily an itemization issue rather it's an issue with specific ADCs that have this "two-shot" potential.

Well whenever the nerfs do happen, they should add a clause in for BotRK that allows the 8% current health on-hit damage to critically strike.

Daddy Ants2 votes

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I don't think it's necessarily an itemization issue rather it's an issue with specific ADCs that have this "two-shot" potential.

Well whenever the nerfs do happen, they should add a clause in for BotRK that allows the 8% current health on-hit damage to critically strike.

Change BoTRK from 8% Current to say 5 or 6% MAX HP.

Leave it as Physical damage so armor can still reduce it.

They would probably have to special case Lucian so his double shot doesn't apply BOTRK twice if it became Max HP. This guy double shooting and applying a max hp scaling botrk twice, The horror...

TeCoolMage1 votes

Well crits on the second shot deal reduced damage for lucian

Daddy Ants1 votes

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right now the reason vayne is strong, is because of her ability to just buy IE and shiv and come out of invis and 2 shot people. this isnt what vayne should be in regards to an adc, i miss seeing bork built on her, where you actually had to play smart to beat your opponents, kiting, condemn flashing, w/e you can think of to actually win a fight, not press R and Q and obliterate the enemies fucking face off. but how do you nerf this exactly? could we try making her q not be able to crit? well the problem with that is then you cant fight adc's or assasins, youll most likely get obliterated by the enemy adc who built IE statik, or the assasins who comes from invis and makes you go bye bye, could we just nerf crit in general? i realize this isnt a "vayne nerf" but right now crit is so overtuned and such an rng stat it can break any adc who decides to go ie, statik, or IE hurricane cough cough twitch cough cough. nerfing crit so that it would do 50% more dmg then make ie give 50% increased crit so that you get double dmg after IE, please im tired of picking vayne going bork and getting shit on because im going the far inferior build. i want my vayne back :(

The thing is; Any ADC can buy IE and Shiv and do that.

They need to hit Shiv directly, make it unable to crit.

Her Q can't crit already.

Tumble is a 2 part attack.

The auto attack and the tumble bonus damage.

Auto attack crits but the tumble component does not.

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Well crits on the second shot deal reduced damage for lucian

What I meant is.

Let's say they changed BoTRK to 5% max hp instead of current HP.

They'd need to either make his double shot apply BoTRK once or don't allow it to apply BoTRK period.

TeCoolMage1 votes

Oh I thought you were talking about if botrk also critted

For lucian honestly he's a complicated beast because he's meant to be an early to mid game ADC that sucks late game and botrk is the poster child mid game ADC item (on hits in general are early-mid game). I think changing botrk to max hp might turn it straight up into a late game item but then it leaves Lucian with much less good itemization (crit should be yuck, he'll probably go lethality then)

Śhunpo1 votes

Yeah, Crit. as a whole either needs hard nerfs in terms of pricing OR the actual stat. needs to get reworked to not be RNG and not deal as much damage.

with the answer1 votes

Her q doesn't crit. Just nerf her Q. Otherwise, she's fine.

The steam life1 votes

It does tho Edit jk I’m dumb

lil koda1 votes

what i meant was, she gets a crit plus the bonus damage from the q auto, i know the bonus damage doesnt crit, i still believe most the damage is coming from the 600 magic damage nuke that shiv gives after ie....

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

It's not crit on her, it's precision that benefits her more than any other ADC, especially PTA that rewards sticking to one targe, playstyle much more natural to Vayne than for other ADCs.

invisiblecat12 votes

Then explain why she was still building IE Shiv and one shotting before the new runes were even anounced? Probably isn't really Precision, but crit items AND precision

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Because tumble used to crit. After 7.19 nerf she was perfectly fine until preseason.

koshkyra1 votes

"Vayne is op with stattik and IE because she obliterates"

"You cant nerf vayne in x way because other adcs will build stattik and IE and obliterate her"

Maybe the problem is item 3087 item 3031

lil koda1 votes

thats kind of what i was getting at, i absolutely despise statik being a 600 magic damage nuke, on top of an 800 dmg auto...

YoRHa 2B1 votes

Am I the only one who plays lethality dark harvest Vayne?

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