Every high elo player complaining about Zoe and Irelia

Don't know anything about Irelia but can tell you exactly what Zoe's problem is right now as a Zoe Main.

Minion dematerializer. This item is making her laning phase laughably easy because she cannot be shoved with it early meaning she can snowball extremely way. Her weakness is suppose to be wave clear and she is designed around that weakness but that rune not only negates it but makes it reallly strong early. The change to it in 8.12 is going to have a noticeably difference but with that being said.

She and Aurelion Sol are the only mages that are strong right now and that is because she has the ability to shove the wave AND roam. No other Mage can currently do that. Now by strong i mean slightly and the change to that rune will bring her down in power. Then you are just gonna see a Meta mid with mostly assassins because they will be able to shove out any mage besides Aurelion Sol and Roam.

I mean to further prove my case, since this patch delayed the Rune until second cannon her WR has dropped nearly 2%

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champions/

Edit: Twisted Fate is also really strong in this meta because of his ultimate so he will also be the other strong mage after 8.12. I means theres a reason Talon is so strong right now.

I mean look at the trend, Taliyah was nerfed because of Waveclear.

Irelia was just garbage, zoe is fine.