"I don't feel like doing anything but Jungle, so that's what I'm doing no matter what."

48983507DEL1··1 votes·560 views

Why is there no punishment for these kind of people yet? I can understand being upset if your main role gets taken, but to intentionally ruin the game for everyone in the game because you don't get your role.

This was a ranked game as well, which forced me to dodge. Can we please do something about this? It's just childish.

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disregardable1 votes

Nothing wrong with duo jg. Gives the ADC more exp.

franticFurball1 votes

I wonder...would you still defend such trolls if you were on the receiving end? Say, in a promo game?

disregardable1 votes

I firmly believe it's not trolling. I've also never lost a promo series.

franticFurball1 votes

Is that so?

I find that difficult to believe, considerung you are Silv-V with over 300 games this season ;-)

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/56634204#profile

disregardable1 votes

Mhm, my season basically went like this.

Season Reset in January demoted me to B5. I spent several months buoying between B5 and B4. Losing streak, win streak, then losing streak again. First time I made it to my B3 promos I won. Sat at B3 for a while. I went on a crazy winning streak within like 2 weeks, got B2, B1, and S5 from there. Got demoted from S5 (rip 12 game loss streak), got to S5 promos again and won.

Overall, like 10 promos won.

destiny fan1 votes

instead of being just as inmature as he is, take up your ego and put it somewhere safe!

what i'm saying is bitch out and play support instead of having a double jungle buddy!

48983507DEL12 votes

he kinda said it after I first picked jungle

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Tulare1 votes

It's probably not the most considerate thing to do in a ranked game. The meta exists because it's a conveniently effective composition that allows random groups of players sort out who is doing what. Having said that, the meta is not binding. I don't think any player is under an obligation to conform to the metagame. I began a discussion on this topic previously; the stuff below is substantially reposted from that topic.

Let me spin this scenario in a few different ways to illustrate.

  1. Honouring pick order, 5th raises no objection to 4th going jungle. Dishonouring the meta, 5th also chooses a jungler and elects to duo jungle.
  2. Honouring pick order, 5th raises no objection to 4th going jungle. 5th also accepts the remaining role (support) but elects to support a lane besides bot.
  3. 5th honours pick order in theory but doesn't understand the meta. His choice of champion and where he goes in game might as well be random.

In any of these scenarios, is 5th guilty of a reportable offense? Which offense? Does it matter whether the game was normal or ranked?

In the scenarios where a player deliberately bucks the meta to the discomfort of the other players, if you believe that's a reportable offense, how far should it extend? If it's okay to report somebody for not honouring the traditional lane and role assignments:

  • Is it okay to report somebody who accepts a role but chooses an unconventional champ for it?
  • What if they choose a conventional champ for the role but leave a hole in the composition over the objections of their teammates? (for example, choosing a mage support instead of a tank support)
  • What if their teammates believe that literally only a single champion could plug that hole? Should the player be reported for choosing a different champ?

How much authority do one's teammates have to force a late-pick player to play in a particular lane with a particular kind of champion? If they have a lot of authority, is that meta-enforcing, and are you okay with that? If they have little authority, does that promote toxicity, and are you okay with that?

Xonra1 votes

I'm not sure I would even say this is just a matter of following the meta or not, but more of a case of putting your team that wants to follow the meta at a disadvantage, and trying to force them into a situation they didn't go into when they picked (in your scenario as the 5th pick refusing to conform to the other 4 people).

If you want to try something new, let your team know, and to a degree that can be hard given the minimal amount of time in champ select, but there is no positive result ever, when you, as in your example, are last pick and just pick what you want (as far as double jungle for example) when you made no mention of it to your team, or they disagreed to trying it.

You are annoying your teammates, they won't want to help you, likely going to start arguments, and you have a much worse chance of winning even if logically it could work, because they might not want to even try, and just call you a troll.

What's the point of trying to force 4 people to conform to your play style (especially in ranked, because yes ranked and normals are two very different animals), especially when they likely wouldn't want to do that? It is not only selfish, but is just creating a negative atmosphere for the entire game.

An unconventional champ is one thing, but trying to force a team into double jungling, double mid with no jungle, two adcs with no support, etc, will likely never end well.

Also for the most part, all of this can be fixed to an extent with team builder (or it should to an extent). The problem is the fact that someone always has to be last pick, and that person could be say, a Doublelift alt (just throwing out a random name). No one else is going to care who he is if they don't know him by name, he could be the best ADC in that division, but some Bronze 3 player wants to adc, so...Doublelift is last pick and gets stuck jungling. Guess that could start an entirely different discussion.

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