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"This Season is the worst yet"

48983507DEL1·10/12/2017, 8:45:42 PM·90 votes·10,802 views

These happen every single year. People firmly believe that every season has ruined League, changing their favorite aspects of the game because Riot's balance team doesn't know what they're doing.

The problem is that these perspectives are often flawed, and don't grasp the fundamentals of how the game functions each season.

For example, people say the game favors snowballing way too much, when in reality the game goes to 35+ minutes quite often. Snowballing has actually been hindered a lot due to catch-up XP, making champions like Lee Sin worse and tanks like Sejuani very strong.

People also say that the game is overly reliant on which champions are picked, giving the game a feeling of lower variety. I honestly don't understand these arguments at all, since changes to the pace of the game have made so many more champions viable than in previous seasons.

There are only 2 or 3 champions in each role that are truly bad, such as Shaco in the Jungle or Dr. Mundo in the Top lane. Even if tanks are strong, carry Top Laners like Riven are still playable and ganking Junglers like Lee Sin can still impact the game. No one showcases this better than Longzhu, who will give J4 to Khan despite what the meta dictates.

Finally, people believe that if there is not perfect balance in the game currently, it means that Riot doesn't know how to balance their game. First of all, people have the audacity to assume that they know far better than Riot despite probably never working on a game balance team in their life. Take a step back and realize that Riot has been doing this for years, and they most likely have a better understanding of how they want their game to function than 99% of people on these boards, including myself.

If Riot hasn't changed something that you think is wrong, then the issue is either more complicated and challenging to fix than you comprehend, or they want this to be in the game and you need to adapt to it. It's still their game after all.

In conclusion, the issue of Season 7 being the worst season yet is entirely subjective. However, if you truly think that it is the arrival of the 4 Horseman, you need to understand what's actually wrong with it. The biggest problems this season were Lethality at the beginning and Ardent Censor & Knight's Vow at the end.

Despite the game being focused on the ADC at this point, I'd still say this season brings welcomed champion versatility and intense matches where team-fights matter more than ever. This would've been my favorite season if Rengar hadn't have been changed, and I'm looking forward to the next season's changes. Also, Kayn is awesome.

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KoKoboto10/12/2017, 9:08:40 PM49 votes

Season 1-2 was a learning time so somewhat understandable.

Season 3 was pretty alright but the meta was really stale as you got higher up. Season 4 was better and starting dealing with the staleness. The game overall was great and although there were a bunch of lame things it was alright.

  • A lot of people say season 3 and 4 are best seasons.

Early Season 5 was pretty alright as well. New things to learn and stuff and for the most part it was okay. End of Season 5 & every season after. Just replacing horrible metas with horrible metas.

A lot of the fundamental problems in the game come from patch 5.22 and have not been addressed since than. Ergo we see the same complaints every year.

"Game goes to 35 minutes". Oh yes people bring this up all the time. The game is DECIDED by 10 or 15 minutes and the winning team just bullshits around until the game they feel like ending.

"People say champion pick decides game too much". Unless you're refering to meta champions like Hyper Carries with Ardent Censer supports I don't understand why you'd be confused. People are pissed off that these champions are the best strategy every game. And usually when there is one class that is the best you pick the same champions every time and it feels bullshit to go up against. Going back to before, "replacing horrible metas with horrible metas".

KVbqbFsC8e10/12/2017, 8:58:41 PM17 votes

Season 6 was and always will be the worst season ever.

Lauchmelder10/12/2017, 9:17:31 PM13 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Nut,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hd87EbAm,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-12T20:45:42.234+0000)

These happen every single year. People firmly believe that every season has ruined League, changing their favorite aspects of the game because Riot's balance team doesn't know what they're doing.

Different people complaining every season.

For example, people say the game favors snowballing way too much, when in reality the game goes to 35+ minutes quite often. Snowballing has actually been hindered a lot due to catch-up XP, making champions like Lee Sin worse and tanks like Sejuani very strong.

The game DOES favor snowballing too much. It has nothing to do with gamelength here. Just because a lot of players can't close out won games earlier doesn't mean those games were enjoyable for everybody. If you fall behind early you're screwed until lategame. That's the major complaint here.

People also say that the game is overly reliant on which champions are picked, giving the game a feeling of lower variety. I honestly don't understand these arguments at all, since changes to the pace of the game have made so many more champions viable than in previous seasons.

I'll give you that, this season probably had the most champions in a viable state.

Finally, people believe that if there is not perfect balance in the game currently, it means that Riot doesn't know how to balance their game. First of all, people have the audacity to assume that they know far better than Riot despite probably never working on a game balance team in their life. Take a step back and realize that Riot has been doing this for years, and they most likely have a better understanding of how they want their game to function than 99% of people on these boards, including myself.

Even if Riot has been doing it for years, if their focus is on making the game as enjoyable as possible for the broad majority of their playerbase they also have to listen to those complaints. Yasuo gets a mini rework because (nearly) nobody can stand laning against him or having him on your team. Without the playerbase he would have stayed in this spot.

If Riot hasn't changed something that you think is wrong, then the issue is either more complicated and challenging to fix than you comprehend, or they want this to be in the game and you need to adapt to it. It's still their game after all.

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In conclusion, the issue of Season 7 being the worst season yet is entirely subjective. However, if you truly think that it is the arrival of the 4 Horseman, you need to understand what's actually wrong with it. The biggest problems this season were Lethality at the beginning and Ardent Censor & Knight's Vow at the end. Despite the game being focused on the ADC at this point, I'd still say this season brings welcomed champion versatility and intense matches where team-fights matter more than ever. This would've been my favorite season if Rengar hadn't have been changed, and I'm looking forward to the next season's changes. Also, Kayn is awesome.

The main problem is ADCs (right now) literally decide games single handedly. The last time mages had that was when Azir was strong back in season 6. And he got gutted until his recent rework DUE to that. And I can't even remember when this was the case with any other champion class.

SmokinSickStyle10/13/2017, 9:41:12 AM11 votes

People are not one person, people play in different ranks, where games are completely different, varying in viable champs and game length.

When it's not about "people" but one person that has played in all seasons, they might know better to say that this is the worst season.

Personally i agree, every season is ADC season, with some shades of other roles being dominant, but right now we are in a meta where ADC are not ADC but AD Hypercarries, where the support functions as secondary item slots for ADC players, you could always go for the protect the ADC teamcomp but you had to sacrifice damage for survivability, and the carries were already semi-hyper, such as Vayne or Kog; this season you can always go with this strategy without sacrificing damage to the point that you winning the game by carrying with any other carry champion that is not a ranged rightclicker became 2-3 times as hard ,and if you are a champion that should fall off late now you fall off as soon as the enemy groups up in the midgame, because turrets and objectives overall as so easy to take as ranged snowballing overlords.

The problem is and will always be RANGED POINT AND CLICK HYPERSCALING CHAMPIONS.

Lethality wasn't a problem, ADC broke it, due to Riot's being hellbent on not making certain items MELEE ONLY, so it was abused by ranged overlords and got nerfed.

Then Riot decided to overdo it with the supp and "tank" items (biased towards ADC) to the point that when Riot buffed lethality again (even stronger than it was at the start of the season when the abuse started), not even ADC were abusing it anymore because of how fucking strong and cheap crit is and how easily they can benefit from other player buying items for them, effectively extending their item slots.

This is the season where the holy law of Burst>ADC>Tank>Burst has been broken, ADC surviving burst thanks to Knight's vow, shields and heals, possible use of phantom+death's dance.

This is the season where ADC stat check more than any other bruiser that has been deemed as toxic in design, yet Riot does everything to keep it alive if it's ranged rightclick.

This is the season where assassins received an update to increase their windows of counterplay by adding delays in their burst, so ranged rightclickers can just crit you 3 times and deal the same damage as a well executed assassin combo that requires positioning, aiming skillshots, being patient to avoid CC and being mostly melee and forced to take risks.

At this point ADC don't deal DPS, they deal burst per second as soon and they hit their 3 item powerspike that is not that much expensive considering that 2 of the core items cost less than 2 assassin, mage or tank items.

I can only agree from Rengar onward, they changed him when Twitch does what old Rengar did, and better, MUCH better.

There is only one true assassin left, SA Kayn, having burst times similiar to the old Talon.

This is coming from someone that never said "this is the worst season i've played" before now.

This is the worst season i've played.

IRyzeForNidalee10/12/2017, 9:20:36 PM8 votes

This season is the worst yet. Unironically.

notice me Sin pi10/13/2017, 1:29:43 PM6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Nut,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hd87EbAm,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-12T20:45:42.234+0000)

For example, people say the game favors snowballing way too much, when in reality the game goes to 35+ minutes quite often. Snowballing has actually been hindered a lot due to catch-up XP, making champions like Lee Sin worse and tanks like Sejuani very strong.

actually, it's the catchup XP that allows junglers to camp a lane without suffering from EXP deficit, making the game more snowbally

And when towers get taken due to the excess early game ganks, the opposing team's jungler loses access to a lot of jungle camps and the catchup EXP does not matter so much afterwards, unless enemy team decides to go afk

Niaphim10/13/2017, 3:02:53 AM6 votes

The problem is that for me personally at least, seasons 3-5 gave mostly positive emotions. Yes, the balance was not pefect. Yes, same picks in competitive, yada, yada. But still, when I learned about new changes, I was happy to see them go live. Seasons 6 and 7 often gave me quite negative reactions, sometimes reaching "WTF" levels of hilariousness. When I first played with 45% cdr, I thought it was a joke and a fun mode, but then I realized it was here to stay. Multiple broken and unfun stuff targeted at twisting the core of the game, shortening its length, making it more "flashy" - I can pinpoint exactly what I dislike in the current League.

Evil Yasuo10/13/2017, 2:49:09 PM6 votes

I agree with the statement though. I have loved every season that i've played but this one. This has been the only one that made me almost quit league, a game I love dearly.

Kloqdq10/13/2017, 2:57:24 PM5 votes

Sure I had issues with the game in the past but from playing near the end of season 3 to the most recent day in season 7, I can honestly say, this has been the worst season with a variety of changes that started dragging it down around the tail end of season 5. If we could go back to season 3 or 4 again I would GLADLY go back. Season 5 and 6 had a lot of problems but I would still rather have them. This season has not been fun, forced numerous changes that are not thought out nor fun and has generally been a massive let down. I really hope season 8 picks up the pieces and we go in a good direction but still nothing is being truly fixed. The problems are still there. We are just getting at least something to ease the pain.

Tanks and supports are still in a bad spot. Marksmans haven't been toned down. There isn't support for mages or fighters. Towers are still weak. Objectives in general are in a bad spot. So many things that have not and will likely not be fixed until later. This sucks a lot.

WintersHarrowing10/13/2017, 5:51:10 PM5 votes

My favorite thing is when people complain, "this game is wayyyyyyy too snowball!!" But then a couple days later the same people are complaining "catch-up xp is so unfair, when I put someone behind (when I snowball) I deserve to continue go have that lead!!!!!"

You can have either or. Not both when it only benefits you

deathgod510/12/2017, 8:56:35 PM4 votes

Case in point:

Not many people know this but the old forums of euw are still open so you have a time capsule what the complaining in s4 looked like. It is almost identical and it is amazing.

http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/forumdisplay.php?f=7

It's pretty similar to these boards.

lofi n chillhop10/13/2017, 2:07:41 PM3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Nut,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hd87EbAm,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-12T20:45:42.234+0000)

These happen every single year.

well, every new player it is in fact the worst season they've experienced so far :P

and I mean for the others... chances are the current season IS the worst for some players. most notsomuch, but for some - their main got nerfed - their favorite items removed - some champ they hate got reworked/added/buffed this season - there's some (small) number of (vocal) players who hate this season, and it won't always be the same players.

Garekk10/12/2017, 11:35:13 PM3 votes

Personally I had less fun during League of Assassins where I literally couldnt play any squishy characters without having a grey screen for 2/3rds of the game.

GentlemanGhidora10/13/2017, 11:57:01 AM3 votes

There's a lot of controversy of balance changes but the one thing many forget or never knew about even if I repeatedly explain are how taking turrets makes minions stronger and push harder. In a vacuum it's a nice concept since you can, theoretically, farm more safely when behind but the reality is in the lategame you need to kill the other team so that you can get the farm in the first place without winions auto-taking more and more while you desperately try to keep the enemy team from snowballing a separate lane for better winions or dragon/baron.

If minions lost their increased stats when in a certain range of an enemy turret, it would go a long way to remedying the whole "there is no good decision when playing from being very behind".

DunkinNoobs10/13/2017, 12:22:51 PM3 votes

Sorry, Season 5 is still the worst ever and I don't know if they'll ever top it. That was the year of Cinderhulk, Sated Devourer, and the Juggernaut update and was a slow meta for nearly the entire year where early game champs were garbage and late game champs reigned.

JRobin3110/13/2017, 3:27:25 PM3 votes

RIOT philosophy appears to be, "If it's not broken, fix it anyways." They actually reworked some champions for no other reason then having not made any significant changes to them since their release. That's not a reason to make changes, but RIOT wants to keep everything fresh because they see that as being more important than balance. RIOT makes good changes and bad changes both.

Is this season "the worst yet"? Maybe, but don't worry, season 8 is on it's way. You ain't seen nothin' yet![slayer-jinx-catface]

PePsiLemoNN10/13/2017, 10:48:30 AM2 votes

You mean that I didn't lose my last 2 games cause this is BY FAR the worst season? :^)

Lady Hammerlock10/13/2017, 3:33:36 PM2 votes

This wasn't nearly as bad as the unholy Graves-Nidalee-Elise jungle trinity, and basically anything else not named Lee Sin was basically irrelevant and trash