Zed....

CasterGilgamesh··2 votes·280 views

Since there are many QQ threads about zed ill just keep it short.... What is the draw back to playing zed? I mean his wave clear is decent not like how people exaggerate but its much better then other assassins who need to wait till like level 6 for their best wave clear while zed is just fine at level 3 sure he uses his escape but its easy to wait out the cooldown early game. When you play against zed you always need to manage Mana unless you bought item 3070 item 3010 but you gain no ap from it while zed can start building item 3155 to stop any of my burst.Not to mention his poke is fast and lets him out position you while he gets a passive thats great for wining low health trades and last hitting for free.I can try to poke him but with health pots and his lack of any mana to manage he will definitely out last me forcing me to recall for mana if he doesnt just out right kill me at level 3 since his damage is just that strong.If he happens to hit level 6 before you get item 3157 he is almost certain to kill you...and dont talk about how he falls off late game any good Assassin will be relevant late game and since his Assassination is just so safe he doesnt have to worry like Talon Katarina Diana Akali about getting out.

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YumScrumptious961 votes

Mages have very strong late games, Zed has a very weak late game unless your team completely fails to use CC, exhaust, heals, shields or even attack him. You may feel that assassins in the late game are strong but its just not true. Zed can ult onto the ADC and one flash and a heal later Zed can be killed and the adc is still healthy bc of lifesteal. I've seen a Vayne 1v1 a Zed while they were around 40% and they just condemned him immediately and auto'ed him to death before he could do anything. Assassins are easy to beat late but it requires either good mechanics or just teamwork.

Dark Nephthys1 votes

You bring up good points and I agree. I just don't like Zed because of how safe he is to play and how oppressive he is during the lane phase. I don't really care about his damage Mid/Late game because he is an assassin so I generally expect him to be able to instantly kill people during those times but I hate how strong he is during the early lane phase. Most assassins have a weak or terrible early game and generally are easy to take advantage of. The only assassins I'll say are strong during the early game is Ekko Leblanc Zed. Ekko isn't even played as an AP assassin anymore anyways, and Leblanc at least suffers with weak wave clear, mana and her burst is usually telegraphed and predictable. Zed on the other hand can wave clear forever since he has energy, and higher wave clear than most assassins and while his main poke is telegraphed a little to, his shadow into shuriken is so fast that it really doesn't matter plus can reach farther distance than Leblanc can.

Yes item 3157 counters his ultimate, but not all mages can rush that item since a lot of mages actually need one or both of item 3027/item 3003. Also even if you did first item a Zhonyas, his early game damage and poke is so high he can easily kill you without even using his ultimate.

Then the items make it much worse...Zed can get Maw which as you said basically means mages can't kill him and gives him great stats in general. Mean while Mages either get mana items to keep up with the minion waves and risk getting easily destroyed under your own tower or get Zhonyas and maybe survive him if you're lucky but miss out on a lot of minions and go oom and lose the tower/other advantage. Maw isn't even the only item that Zed can get that can counter mages, while mages only have Zhonyas and nothing else...The item options are just much stronger for AD assassins, Zed is just the only actual AD assassin that gets complained about because he has far less weaknesses than the other ones.

This was mainly talking about the topic, and not directly at the OP btw.

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