Support main here.
I'm thankfully seeing less of this these days. What doesn't seem to be going away is the "you're supposed to be on my hip protecting me you ****ing piece of trash"
ikr or when the adc suddenly decides to go in right when you start placing wards

That one's gotta be at least 8 points.
Only 8? God darn, I thought vayne would be more reckless...
Or when you go to clear a ward and the enemy support tries to stop you, and your adc DOESN'T go in
Or when you go to clear a ward and the enemy support tries to stop you, and your adc DOESN'T go in
That one's just outright annoying. I'm like
"ADC...? Well, what are you waiting for!? Their support is unprotected now. HELLOOO!? [...] sigh Nevermind then..."
Not even attack-pinging their support seems to help. Fair enough when it's their wave pushing (but then I don't ping either), but when it's OUR wave that's pushing, there's no excuse not to go in (if both of us knows we will out-trade them).
And then their ADC will come to help their support and you get 2v1'd and flamed at by your ADC :[
Such a pain in the ass to spend 10% of your gold every time you back to buy a pink ward, only to have the adc and support come clear it and try to kill your ass as your ADC is freezing lane and standing there, waiting to last hit.
You shouldn't be placing wards if a teamfight is starting.
Also there are so many times in laning phase I see bad supports get deep wards by drag so I flash onto the ADC for a free kill. You can't blame the ADC for that because it's the support's job to know when to ward. It could be avoided if the ADC followed you when you went to ward but that's expecting too much for Solo Q.
im talking about when both sides are being passive farming it out my adc's tend to legit walk to the other adc smack them with a Q or something then get CC'ed by the other support most likely
waiting in the bush while their adc was farming
You should't just abandond your ADC though.
You can ward the very bottom edge of the river bush. You don't always need deep wards
The further you can get that ward into the brush, the further the vision will give. Who knows that extra 1 foot gives some good warnings.
I'm not saying deep wards are bad..
If the minions are even in the middle of the lane and you decide to go ward drag and Tri bush, chances are your ADC just died and you have yourself to blame.
If the ADC/Supp has backed or died recently then you are free to get deep wards if you want.
You can anticipate when the jungler might show up bot or when mid lane might roam just by looking at the map. If you saw the jungler backing while top, chances are he's going to clear bot and gank. So I only need to get vision of river bush and stay prepared until the jungler shows up or shows his face somewhere on the map. Similarly, if your jungler is bot side then you don't really need the deep vision. Also if the enemy Talon/LB is missing and they're lvl 6, chances are they're trying to roam (often they enter theough your own tri bush which is why you pink it). Just practice common sense and put yourself in the enemy jungler's shoes.
If you're being forced under tower then you don't need deepwards.
The only time you really need deepwards is if you're trying to play super aggro and forcing the enemy under tower. At that point it's safer to ward and if you're really scared of your ADC diving, just signal "On the Way" to show where you're warding. Or you could just ask them to hold your hand while you ward because you're scared to go alone and you couldn't imagine a future if something went wrong and you had to live without your true love, the ADC.
You can't just spontaneously decide to deepward still. It's safer to wait until one of the enemies has backed off. IF your ADC starts fighting while you're trying to ward, forget what you're doing and get back to them ASAP
Just as often as I kill lonely ADCs, I also kill bad supports who always die trying to contest a pink ward in the blue-side tribush. If you're a support and you ward that bush and notice an enemy pinkward, unless you're 2v1 or you KNOW you and your ADC could win the 2v2 then just back away and don't die for a stupid pink. This is also a great time for the blue-side jungler to gank (when fighting over tribush) so keep that in mind whether you're baiting on blue team or disengaging on red team.
I love when people try and have me play a babysitter when I'm playing someone like bard and Morgana. Like sorry no I'm going to roam. If you wanted a babysitter you should have asked if I could go soraka or janna
I could never get into Support, because it seems the Support is the one always to be bashed on.
As someone who often play support, I will gladly tell any ADC who thinks I'm their slave this: "Yo, I ain't your own personal bitch, babysitter or whipping boy. I am the TEAM's support. So let's stopping acting likely my sole job all game is to spoon feed you (get them kills) & keep you from tripping over your untied shoes (get themself killed)."
That must take a while to type out in game
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This bugs the hell outta me. I'm a Support main, as well, and I actually thought I'd have peace after that whole "Only Supports Ward" thing ended, but this whole "you should be babysitting me 24/7 thing is getting on my last nerve". Like, there are 3 other players on this team. Just because I mainly reside bot lane does not mean you are the ONLY one I am supporting.
This bugs the hell outta me. I'm a Support main, as well, and I actually thought I'd have peace after that whole "Only Supports Ward" thing ended, but this whole "you should be babysitting me 24/7 thing is getting on my last nerve". Like, there are 3 other players on this team. Just because I mainly reside bot lane does not mean you are the ONLY one I am supporting.
I'm there to babysit them early game, let them farm, maybe get a couple kills. After a tower dies I'm only sticking with the guy if I believe we can get something out of it, otherwise I'm off to mid/top after putting a couple wards down to keep his ass somewhat safe. Just gotta hope that guy takes a look at the minimap every couple seconds...
Ok so i'm really not trying to offend you here but i'm sick of all these supports main's coming here and acting like the whole world is hating on them. Like wtf. I'm really starting to think all the people's who play support were abused when they were kids cause all the "support mains" i see on the boards are acting like victims lmao.
Back in the day where there was no ward limit, it was a very popular belief that it was only the support's job to ward.
You know I actually got yelled at for warding once?
"stop wasting money on wards"
i'm sick of all these supports main's coming here and acting like the whole world is hating on them.
But...but it's true! :'(
Okay, sarcasm aside, I've been playing this game - and support - long enough to remember when it was the support's, and ONLY the support's, responsibility to ward.
Support: "you can ward too, you know." ADC: "nah, that's your job."
^ True story [sic].
These days though, I don't think much of it. I consider Vision to be a minigame in itself, and so I find it fun to have the Sightstone, and place wards to keep the map well-lit. It gives entertainment and extra satisfaction, and I am grinning wildly, when some enemy jungle-douche thinks he can just randomly come wandering down bot, looking to score some easy kills.
But this is something like "better nerf Irelia" - it's a joke that's just...stuck, ever since.
But...but it's true! :'(
Okay, sarcasm aside, I've been playing this game - and support - long enough to remember when it was the support's, and ONLY the support's, responsibility to ward.
These days though, I don't think much of it. I consider Vision to be a minigame in itself, and so I find it fun to have the Sightstone, and place wards to keep the map well-lit. It gives entertainment and extra satisfaction, and I am grinning wildly, when some enemy jungle-douche thinks he can just randomly come wandering down bot, looking to score some easy kills.
But this is something like "better nerf Irelia" - it's a joke that's just...stuck, ever since.
Gotta love the Lee Sin's sitting in your warded tri-bush waiting to dive and you're just sitting there, giggling like a schoolgirl, and typing "/all Nice weather in there, right Lee?" after a bit :P
I do despise one thing: the ADC that NEVER uses his god damn yellow trinket, like seriously, is it so hard to ward a lane brush?
Gotta love the Lee Sin's sitting in your warded tri-bush waiting to dive and you're just sitting there, giggling like a schoolgirl, and typing "/all Nice weather in there, right Lee?" after a bit :P
Ooh, I'm gonna steal that one!
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
I did once write "/all hi there, zed! how's it goin'?", when he came down from mid sitting in that bush when me and my ADC were pushing the bot turret.
Even our top went "/all nice one zed - you just passed through 3 wards getting there xD".
A bit unnecessary to give up that info, I thought, but in the spirit of the lolz I let it be (they still didn't destroy my pink ward until some 10 minutes later ^^).
Not the whole world hates us. Just the league world. It's nice to be able to share the frustrations with other support mains, because if you're a support main, you're literally never going to see another support in your games. So this is the only place you can vent. I agree some people take it too far, but there really is nothing worse than when your ADC is bad or toxic, which is a majority of my games.
If you read it in their voices, it gets even better.
"You had one job..." ~ 
Yes, YES, YEEES! OMG, that so true! Lulu's giving Jinx what is basically a telling off in her cute and squeaky voice. Loving it! xD
Though I'm struggling to differenciate between Lulu's actual voice and LilyPichu's...but I guess things can only get so purple. ^^
Same people who call this KS
i would consider myself a support main who plays top and jungle and adc from time to time. every game no matter what support i play , meta, off meta , trolll support ect i always ALWAYS usually in my second base get a
and upgrade my trinket to
, i dont care if your going
GET A DAMN
HOW CAN WARDS AND HEALTH BE A BAD BUY? alot of the times as jungle i buy pink wards or use my trinkets for my laners to prevent ganks which helps them not die and will lead more likely winning. as adc alot i get "mage" supports who are too worried about getting damage to even use a trinket and i end up having to ward and end warding more them they do. but what do i know, im not even bronze ...

...always ALWAYS usually...
And the prize for the biggest contradictive statement goes to...
Wp, Sir, wp. ^^
my statement was i always get a
, usually on my 2nd back. if i have enough gold on 1st back i get it right away, or if im vs a jungler who ganks early ill at least back early and get a pink ward. but i will have my
by 8 mins into the game. so i dont understand what your trying to point out.
There was no point, only an attempt at a joke. As the words "always" and "usually" cannot be used in the same sentence - it's either one or the other. ;)
I understood what you meant, no worries. :)
ok i was a bit confused, its been a long hot day at work lol its 101 degrees with a heat index of 106 today. 9 hrs of it make you a bit slow in the mind lol
Well tbh, since they removed Green Wards from the game, nowadays it is mostly supports who can ward, maybe sometimes junglers too.
Sighstone is as great item if you are behind and need health, its like 1k health and infinite wards for what, 800g? Why you see high tier junglers get it almost every game if they are behind.
Well it's actually 150 health, which is exactly as much as a ruby crystal, so not really worth buying if you only need health, and 500 for the upgraded one.
So yeah, some junglers might make good use of it, or just the Tracker's Knife, since roaming around the map is part of their job, but the other laners can only protected themselves with mere trinket, or a single pink ward.
adcs can buy a damn pink ward then. just because green wards are gone does not mean you shouldn't buy a pink ward.
They usually do, but they get cleared quite fast or just become irrelevant after laning phase ends.
they removed green wards cuz they did a study of stats in games to see how often wards were bought and they (riot) realized no one was buying them. riot then saw all the so called "toxicity" towards "supports" who were treated as "warding bitches" and created the TRINKET to provide you with FREE WARDS that dont take INVENTORY SPACE. as top/mid you should have a pink and trinket ward up at all times, jungler usually gets sweepers and adcs normally at lvl 9 gets blue trinket to scout ahead. with yellow trinket you get a free ward ever 90secs? and in a typical 30 min game you should be able to place 20 trinket wards. id admit no one including supports wards enough. wards/vision can win games and prevent from losing lanes/objectives AND ITS FREE [zombie-brand-facepalm]
I know that even simple math is extremely hard for some people, but I'll try to explain this as simple as possible.
At level 1, a trinket lasts for only 1 minute (60 seconds), and has a recharge time of 3 minutes (180 seconds). Even if you'd get 2 charges at the start of the game (but you don't), that would still mean that for at least 1 minute you're forced to lane in the dark.
Ok let's say you don't really need wards at level 1, for simplicity let's say you're level 9 (usually the laning phase is over by now, but let's assume it's not). That means your ward will provide vision for 90 seconds, and has a recharge time of 135 seconds. So, for every charge you are now forced to lane 45 in the dark.
Not to mention that wards get cleared all the time by junglers and enemy laners with pink wards.
And just because some noobs weren't buying green wards doesn't mean that nobody was using them. This change was clearly a buff to junglers, making ganks more possible because duh, less vision.
So go ahead, keep [zombie-brand-facepalm]-ing yourself.
I don't buy sightstone anymore Idc People don't respect you at all when you support they just expect you to OBEY and swallow every single insult they throw your way If everyone on team uses wards then it would provide the entire team with a generous amount of vision ( Far surpassing a ss ) also junglers should buy a pink ward and put it in one of the bushes beside mid so mid only has to worry about one bush
http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/warding
According to this, toplaners ward more often than support.
Especially if you're red side, you get ganked so often at top lane that you ward the bushes as much as you possibly can.
Wait.... I get posts deleted (And warnings) for calling a splash art retarded but this is OK? I mean... I love this post but show some consistency please Riot. >(
mine might just get taken down as well but then again riot hardly is consistent thats why we have
with her trash passive while
gets his passive changed for the same reason you could change
passives since they are fake passives that only serve to hinder them since they need high mana cost to balance out the "free" mana value from their passives
Xerath's is to force him to get close to his enemy, so that he can have stronger spells. And there have been talks about changing LIssandra's since two years ago.